noisycheese
Normal(ish) Human
Using RF cameras has made me sloppy
Photographing with rangefinder cameras has had the exact opposite effect on me; so much so that I don't own anything other than rangefinder cameras at present.
I do miss my Nikon F3hp though.
I think I am going to try to replace it in 2018 if I can find a minty copy that is for sale at a reasonable price.
Huss
Veteran
Photographing with rangefinder cameras has had the exact opposite effect on me; so much so that I don't own anything other than rangefinder cameras at present.
I do miss my Nikon F3hp though.![]()
I think I am going to try to replace it in 2018 if I can find a minty copy that is for sale at a reasonable price.
I figured out why I can hold RFs much steadier than SLRs. When I put my Leica to my face, it fits perfectly in the space between my eye/eyebrow ridge and the side of my nose. It is braced in there solidly w/o me even realizing it. I can't do that with an SLR as the VF is in the middle of the body, and best I can do is squish my honker against the back of the film door.
FYI I may be selling a perfect condition F3 Limited. It is the F3P titanium that has a regular hotshoe and the Limited (edition) script. But these puppies aint cheap! ($700). A regular mint (actually mint, not the fake described as mint that most peeps seem to do) runs about $350.
JP Owens
Well-known
Just shoot with lenses that have stabilizers built in. Problem solved. 
One of the advantages of going to mirrorless with the G85 and GX8 is five axis ibis. Thankfully, as I've gotten older and more shaky, technology has come to the rescue! If I'm paying attention, I can get a fair hit rate hand-held at 1 second with the G85.
I don't think mirror slap is a real issue with the f4, f5 or f6, though. When I used the F4s professionally, though, carrying that boat anchor around for very long could certainly make me shaky!
One of the advantages of going to mirrorless with the G85 and GX8 is five axis ibis. Thankfully, as I've gotten older and more shaky, technology has come to the rescue! If I'm paying attention, I can get a fair hit rate hand-held at 1 second with the G85.
I don't think mirror slap is a real issue with the f4, f5 or f6, though. When I used the F4s professionally, though, carrying that boat anchor around for very long could certainly make me shaky!
steveyork
Well-known
Sloppy technique that had me not brace myself correctly allowed the extra vibrations inherent in an SLR to result in less than satisfactory results.
That's why some folks like the Leicaflex SL. Better shutter damping. A braking system that allows a stop or two slower then, for example, a Nikon.
charjohncarter
Veteran
I agree with you: I am more steady with my RF(s).
nukecoke
⚛Yashica
Not all my RFs have 1/15s or 1/10s, which I wish they have. All my SLRs have them, which I'm reluctant to use.
Huss
Veteran
So here's an interesting update... I've been shooting the F6 with a Sigma Art 50 1.4 - and about 50% of the pics were out of focus. But that lens is in focus on my D850, which with its high pixel sensor is far more sensitive to focus issues.
I then replaced that lens with a 50 1.8G on the F6. And again the pics were OOF. I then noticed that in the VF, when the focus confirmation dot lit - whether in MF or using AF, the view in the VF was obviously OOF. So it seems that the focus in my F6 has drifted/been knocked off. So much for this only happening to RF cameras...
I have been extremely careful with my F6, it has never been bumped, does not have a mark on it, looks new. So this is very disappointing indeed, especially since I picked it as my 35mm film camera on a photo trip at the end of last year when I first noticed possible issues (once I got back and saw the results).
At least this camera is a gen-you-whine USA version, so I should not have an issue getting it serviced. Nikon USA does not touch grey market cameras. But this is $till going to hurt..
I then replaced that lens with a 50 1.8G on the F6. And again the pics were OOF. I then noticed that in the VF, when the focus confirmation dot lit - whether in MF or using AF, the view in the VF was obviously OOF. So it seems that the focus in my F6 has drifted/been knocked off. So much for this only happening to RF cameras...
I have been extremely careful with my F6, it has never been bumped, does not have a mark on it, looks new. So this is very disappointing indeed, especially since I picked it as my 35mm film camera on a photo trip at the end of last year when I first noticed possible issues (once I got back and saw the results).
At least this camera is a gen-you-whine USA version, so I should not have an issue getting it serviced. Nikon USA does not touch grey market cameras. But this is $till going to hurt..
Huss
Veteran
Yeeah something broke on my babied never scratched/dropped F6. Nikon is giving it a B2 repair "Replace/repair major parts". Really disappointed in that for a pro F level camera, but it explains my OOF results. Guess it wasn't my technique after all. I just never would have imagined it to be a faulty F6.
RObert Budding
D'oh!
Have you considered using faster film? I, personally, try to avoid handheld shots at slow shutter speeds.
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