ferider
Veteran
You guys are doing some wild comparisons between f1.2, f1.5 and f2 lenses
at various crop factors and apertures. I know Ted uses an RD1, Keith both film and M8, etc.
What did you refer to ?
And no the 28/1.9 is not soft in the center wide open. And neither is the 35/1.7
in my experience. Very close in signature to the 50/1.5.
And the Canon 50/1.4 is in a different league than the 1.2 (not better, just different). Actually quite similar to the 50/1.5 Nokton, in my experience.
Shoot all the lenses that you mention at f2.8 and the same format and you might be surprised how similar they are.
Roland.
at various crop factors and apertures. I know Ted uses an RD1, Keith both film and M8, etc.
What did you refer to ?
And no the 28/1.9 is not soft in the center wide open. And neither is the 35/1.7
in my experience. Very close in signature to the 50/1.5.
And the Canon 50/1.4 is in a different league than the 1.2 (not better, just different). Actually quite similar to the 50/1.5 Nokton, in my experience.
Shoot all the lenses that you mention at f2.8 and the same format and you might be surprised how similar they are.
Roland.
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Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
You guys are doing some wild comparisons between f1.2, f1.5 and f2 lenses
at various crop factors and apertures. I know Ted uses an RD1, Keith both film and M8, etc.
What did you refer to ?
And no the 28/1.9 is not soft in the center wide open. And neither is the 35/1.7
in my experience. Very close in signature to the 50/1.5.
And the Canon 50/1.4 is in a different league than the 1.2 (not better, just different). Actually quite similar to the 50/1.5 Nokton, in my experience.
Shoot all the lenses that you mention at f2.8 and the same format and you might be surprised how similar they are.
Roland.
Roland ... I have noticed with my Canon 1.2 that stopped down, it really changes the characteristic of the lens and as you say at f2.8 they would all be pretty similar. I guess they show their individuality at these wide apertures because the optical limits are being pushed to maximum for that design. The Canon I note ... still has marked edge softness stopped down though ... that never seems to go away!
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
The Nokton 50mm f1.5 is one of the first "high tech" designs from Mr Kobayashi at Cosina. It is the first 35mm lens made with two aspherical surfaces on the same element. Front and back on the rear element is ground aspheric - no mean feat by any standard. It is sharper than the non Asph Summilux 50 and that is not a bad target to set, Some people complain about contrast and bokeh, but it all depends on your taste. It is one of the best bargains in premium 50mm, medium fast, lenses.
I do have a couple of them, one is on a M3/M2/MP hybrid camera and the other one is in Nikon Rangefinder mount.
I do have a couple of them, one is on a M3/M2/MP hybrid camera and the other one is in Nikon Rangefinder mount.
photo4ls
Well-known
Nokton 50f1.5
Nokton 50f1.5
Nico,
After looking at your gallery,some your post have answered a lot of my questions for lowlight and RF film cameras. I really like the
your style of shooting.
Nokton 50f1.5
Nico,
After looking at your gallery,some your post have answered a lot of my questions for lowlight and RF film cameras. I really like the
your style of shooting.
PetarDima
Well-known
Nico,
After looking at your gallery,some your post have answered a lot of my questions for lowlight and RF film cameras. I really like the
your style of shooting.![]()
I agree
David Murphy
Veteran
Exellent lens -- modern and sharp. I have four highly spec'd 50's in my personal RF
lens stable now so I had to sell mine, but I need another.
lens stable now so I had to sell mine, but I need another.
ampguy
Veteran
Here are some Nokton 50/1.5 photos at night, mostly wide open:
http://matsumura.smugmug.com/gallery/4583187_PukZi#270199948
http://matsumura.smugmug.com/gallery/4583187_PukZi#270199948
Bingley
Veteran
@ampguy -- Wow! Brilliant, sharp photos, but they prompt me to ask whether you see the Nokton as primarily a nighttime, low-light lens, or as an all-round performer.
ampguy
Veteran
Here are a few more daytime Nokton 50/1.5 photos from over the weekend. Great lens!!
http://matsumura.smugmug.com/gallery/4565979_rz43i#269099838
http://matsumura.smugmug.com/gallery/4565979_rz43i#269099838
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ampguy
Veteran
This is a tough question
This is a tough question
I don't know if I've used it enough to answer that. I can state that it is excellent at both low light, all-around daylight, and for shallow DOF with it's fast 1.5 setting.
I have seen some flare in situations that my cron asph 35/2 and Hexanon 50/2 would have handled better, but they aren't as fast as 1.5. It has a different signature than many lenses, but I actually like it.
So far I really like this lens, but unlike others here, I haven't used the Canons, Nikkors RF lenses, or the 35 or 50 luxes or the Zeiss Sonnar or Planars.
I've seen it handle some backlit situations better than the Rokkor 40/2, and Cron v4 pre-asph in specific lighting situations that I know well, but that's a very subjective thing.
I've seen none of the wide open 40/1.4 and 35/1.4 weirdness, so I'm actually very impressed with this lens, and am looking forward to someday trying that 35/1.2 Nokton. I think it's unfortunate that they call all the fast lenses Noktons, because when I hear CV "Nokton" I think of weird bokeh and cheap build, but this one has surprised me very much!!
This is a tough question
I don't know if I've used it enough to answer that. I can state that it is excellent at both low light, all-around daylight, and for shallow DOF with it's fast 1.5 setting.
I have seen some flare in situations that my cron asph 35/2 and Hexanon 50/2 would have handled better, but they aren't as fast as 1.5. It has a different signature than many lenses, but I actually like it.
So far I really like this lens, but unlike others here, I haven't used the Canons, Nikkors RF lenses, or the 35 or 50 luxes or the Zeiss Sonnar or Planars.
I've seen it handle some backlit situations better than the Rokkor 40/2, and Cron v4 pre-asph in specific lighting situations that I know well, but that's a very subjective thing.
I've seen none of the wide open 40/1.4 and 35/1.4 weirdness, so I'm actually very impressed with this lens, and am looking forward to someday trying that 35/1.2 Nokton. I think it's unfortunate that they call all the fast lenses Noktons, because when I hear CV "Nokton" I think of weird bokeh and cheap build, but this one has surprised me very much!!
@ampguy -- Wow! Brilliant, sharp photos, but they prompt me to ask whether you see the Nokton as primarily a nighttime, low-light lens, or as an all-round performer.
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