Velvia 100 vs 100F

[Rob-F]

I've tried both, but never on the same subjects, so I'd like to hear from those who have; or at least have some impressions. I don't see much in the archives (must be there someplace).

In visiting the Fuji website, they claim excellent color and high saturation for each film. However, they note that Velvia 100 can be pushed 1 stop, and 100F can go 2 stops. I imagine (but not sure) this means that 100F is a lower contrast film. Anything to this?

They also talk about excellent color fidelity for 100F, mentioning greens and purples, as well as accuracy under mixed lighting. They don't go so far out of their way to claim this for 100.

I use Velvia mainly outdoors for landscape and architecture. The next project coming up will be in Colorado, New Mexico, and maybe Utah. So mountain and desert colors will be important.

What experiences and preferences can be reported for these two films? Or would you use something entirely different, like Ektachrome?

 

[photogdave]

As far as I know, the 100F has the newer emerald color layer added. The most noticeable difference to my eye is that skin tones from 100F are fairly acceptable. If you are going to have a few people shots on the roll the 100F is a good idea. It's what I use.

 

[Rob-F]

Is there any difference in contrast between the two?

And is 100F, with its increased color accuracy, any less punchy?

 

[photogdave]

I haven't noticed a definite difference in contrast but I would say the 100F is less vibrant. It still retains a "Velvia look" to my eye, but dialed down a little.

 

[Juan Valdenebro]

What Dave said.

100 without F is close to Velvia50. It's great stuff for landscape and product. Yet horrible for skin.

100F should not be called Velvia (to me), as it's like a punchier Provia, but a lot closer to normal slide film looks, than to Velvia50's palette or contrast...

Cheers,

Juan

 

[Rob-F]

OK thanks for the comments. Looks like I should stick with Velvia 100, non-F.

 

[Rob-F]

It looks like neither B&H nor Adorama list Velvia 100 in 120 size; only 100F. Yet, Adorama lists Astia in 120. Funny, I thought Astia was long gone by now. Maybe it's old stock. Maybe it's not moving, and that's why they discontinued it? I'd like to get Velvia 100 in 120, but I guess it's not available.