ochong
Member
Regarding how the information is combined with the optical image...
Ranchu
Veteran
A little slow, I just figured out that since the view in the finder comes off the chip, any frameline is a crop of the chip. No framelines would be the full pic. Wonder if you can apply the frameline crop to all raws in fuji's software.
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Frankie
Speaking Frankly
The view in the OVF is independent of the EVF.
The OVF has a larger FoV than the lens and the EVF.
Thus the OVF covers ~26mm lens eqv. with the projected frameline represents ~90% of the camera lens 35mmm eqv. FoV; while the EVF is exactly what the sensor sees.
It helps if you look at some older posts in various threads before posting.
Ranchu
Veteran
Hey frankie, I can tell you're trying to be helpful. To be honest the viewfinder is the only thing about this camera that even remotely interested me. Thanks for clearing that up. The truth is, if I were shopping for a digital camera, a Rebel would beat this thing easily, DPP is a hell of lot more usable than fuji's raw convertor. But I'm not. Have fun with your new toy!
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Spyro
Well-known
Yeah I think I can live with that too, especially if the distance scale can also been displayed on the lcd. I only need the distance not the total dof, I got that memorised for most lenses I use
There's a tab on the aperture ring, use the camera a couple of weeks straight in manual or shutter priority mode and in the end you'll know your aperture by feel, trust me
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
To a first approximation, that's how I feel about my M6. Oddly enough, the M6 is my favorite camera ever.
Oh, and one other thing. I'll make a prediction.
If this camera's sensor is only as good as the Sony chip in the D90/K-x, I'll predict that in low light, it will yield better IQ than the M9, provided that the M9 is mounted with a lens of f/1.4 or slower.
Snicker.
TMP
Member
I completely forgot about that, excellent point.
user237428934
User deletion pending
well it would if they would release a developer's kit for it...
Or simply have an extensive menu for disabling various viewfinder display options. Just a menu to check off the major options. If the software implements the function, it is easy to provide a list of features to NOT enable. Harder to enable a feature that is not implemented.
On the AF speed- on the Olympus EP2- going from firmware rev 1.0 to 1.1 dramatically improved autofocus. SO: Processor speed and firmware is a bigger factor for AF speed than is battery voltage. If you want a higher voltage for some reason, you can always up convert it. I used a DC to DC convertor to drive 400v from a 5v power supply. Not for AF, but for an all optical attenuator.
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videogamemaker
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I would love an SDK sooooo badly. My husband does small device firmware code, but none of it is encrypted stuff. I bet I could make him create all kinds of goodies were there to be one. I keep pushing him to try to hack the 5D firmware, haha.
Normally the display just has a set of toggles, minimal, and then various additional states till the entire screen is covered. I think the problem comes in designing a menu that has every possible screen overlay as a radio button on/off. Much easier for them to preprogram "states" and let the disp button toggle through them.
That said, I can't really think of anything in the minimal display I would want to hide. I hope the ambient light detector offsets your preferred brightness, ala the ipod/phone/pad. Set the brightness you prefer (in the current lighting setting you are in) then as it alters it, it keeps that offset. It looks a bit bright, and I bet most people objecting to it looking cluttered would mind less as it's dimmed.
Arjay
Time Traveller
Thank you tocalosh for this link!
I analyzed this link using Google Translate, and it contains a rather interesting detail in its menu screenshots:
- Google-Translate the the bullet points approximately half-way down the page and locate 'The contents of the Shooting Menu (example)'.
- Go to the second row, and translate the caption for the right-hand image - it reads 'Dynamic range can be extended'!
I don't intend to open up a digital vs. film debate, but this detail is just too exciting to omit it in our discussion of the X100.
Can anybody contribute additional detail to this item? What is this function, maybe a rapid-fire HDR bracketing sequence? If so, how fast could it be? Tripod only or possibly suitable for hand-held shots?
videogamemaker
Well-known
If it works like Sony and other's implementations, it's a jpeg only setting. It affects how the curves are implemented in making the jpeg. It does not make a single raw file have any more DR at any of these settings.
Here it is explained (sort of) for another fuji model.
I could see it working one of two ways.
1. It takes multiple images, stacks them, and creates a jpeg only with more dynamic range than normal. There are a couple of cameras that can do this, and the sweep panorama mode of the x100 proves it has the ability to align images. Something newer cameras can do with hand held multiple exposures combined into 1 final jpeg with less blown highlights and less clipped shadows.
2. It takes one image, but uses a different curve to prioritize the extreme light differences. In a low contrast image this would result in a very flat image, but in a high contrast image, you can get properly exposed sky and shadows.
No matter which way it is, if past camera implementations are anything to go off, you're only going to see these effects in Jpeg output, they don't alter the raw files. With method 1, you would have the higher DR jpeg with multiple raws you could stack on your own the traditional way, and with method 2 you have one raw file to edit as you normally would. Either way the DR of a single raw image is up to the sensor's capabilities, these settings won't change it.
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TMP
Member
So if I make a graph with voltage and AF-speed then you say there might be a relation. Is it linear? So the Nikon D3 needs probably a 220V battery to be that fast
(just kidding).
I don't know, but the D3's battery is 11.x V
Seriously though, I will be more than happy if the AF speed matches the Ricoh GR D III's (ESPECIALLY in low light)…
If you'd be satisfied with a Rebel (nothing wrong with that), you just don't understand the appeal of something like this. For those of us who hate DSLRs, but like a VF, this appears to be a great product.
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videogamemaker
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Not only that, but, aside from the fact that I find DPP a soccer mom's toy compared to lightroom, the X100 comes with silkypix, not the Fuji editor. I checked out the silkypix feature list and it looks like it matches up very similarly to Lightroom in function and features. I'm eager to try.
Not to mention that the released images at least noise wise look better than the Rebel's sensor.
Not to mention that many of us professing interest in the X100 already *have* a dslr, and higher level models than the Rebel line.
Ranchu
Veteran
Ha, and I consider Lightroom a comical piece of junk.
Both DPP and fuji's processor are designed for accurate color as the goal, they describe the sensor with a look up table (LUT) profile, each pixel is defined on an 'x-y graph' independently of the others. Then this is converted directly into the output space, srgb, Adobe98, etc. That is why they are so simple, there's a limited amount you can do on that one conversion.
Adobe and silkypix use a matrix profiles. The camera pixels 0 and 255 are defined and everything between is just a gamma adjusted line. I'n Lightroom's case the camera profile is converted into a second matrix color space (Melissa, aw, he named it after his daughter), and then converted again to the output space. That's why they have all those knobs so you can get the color right, their partner Greytag will even sell you a profiling kit so you can make the attempt yourself with their blender of a raw processor. Fun huh?
There's a reason most pros use C1, who also write LUT profiles for cameras. Adobe apparently finds it too time consuming, money's better spent on the GUI, I guess.
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Ranchu
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Why not both? I find digital cameras pretty much the same, and the Rebels as good as any other, if you get one that focuses (ha). I like the finder on the fuji too.
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I'm a little more cranky than that and being comfortable with a camera makes me want to go photograph more. I just can't get into DSLRs when I've used them... it's just not my thing after being a rangefinder user for so many years.
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Ranchu
Veteran
Makes sense to me, I like RF's better too. I'm just cranky about raw converters, as you can see.
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M4streetshooter
Tourist Thru Life
Does anyone know how accurate the OVF framelines are to the EVF?
This accuracy is key to this camera.
Are the framelines parallax corrected.
shooter
This accuracy is key to this camera.
Are the framelines parallax corrected.
shooter