Vintage colour look

bcs89 said:
If you want Kodachrome Evgeny thats not a problem - I will send you some 🙂 (I've got a bunch). The problem is developing - its almost impossible!
Yes, I want Kodachrome! But I physically couldn't get it from anywhere :bang: , because
1. There no labs in Russia which develop Kodachrome. The nearest lab is in Switzeland, but:
2. The main reason: Russian Post prohibits the mailing of the "undeveloped photosensitive products" :bang:

Anyway thank you for the your offer 🙂
 
Man that shot looks horrible! It nearly tore away my retinas with them reds! And the boy looks like devil's spawn to me. Brrr. I might have nightmares tonight.... Brrrr.
 
Evgeny S said:
Yes, I want Kodachrome! But I physically couldn't get it from anywhere :bang: , because
1. There no labs in Russia which develop Kodachrome. The nearest lab is in Switzeland, but:
2. The main reason: Russian Post prohibits the mailing of the "undeveloped photosensitive products" :bang:

Anyway thank you for the your offer 🙂

Tovarishch Yevgeni

Fujichrome Velvia will give you saturated tones- almost there where Kodachrome was/is, but not quite. For people like us where Kodachrome isn't easily available,
and where the nearest processing station is about 2000 Km away, Velvia is promising.

Yes, some sort of effect similar to that old colour photo can be recreated using photoshop. You can tweak the colour channels to limit their scales and make one stand out over the other. Just keep adjusting until you see one to your liking. And you can start with a scan of an ordinary print.

That old photo did not get that way because it was just shot on Kodachrome. For all we know, it might not have been Kodachrome. It could have been large sheet Ektachrome or even Anscochrome. It MIGHT have even been a shot from a dirct separation, 3-colour camera, a still version of the three-strip technicolor camera.

The photo shown was a print made from the original transparency. To get a print made then, many cumbersome methods were used like dry transfer, carbro, or whatever manually built- up colour printing method. Manually built up means these are prints whose colours are applied individually as matrices- eg yellow, cyan, and magenta components- until a colour composite forms. This allows the print-maker subjective control to decide which hue to emphasise or highlight.

In the absence of dye matrices and wash-off relief materials, we could probably do the same thing in photoshop. Take the cue from the individual colour matrices of the composite printers and transpose them to the CMYK channels of photoshop and we have a starting point.

BTW, you have a great photographer from the last days of the tsarist era who engaged in direct-separation photography: Sergei MIhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii.
His original three-colour separation negatives were recently made into prints. They are exhibited online at

The Empire That was Russia

Jay
 
Evgeny S said:
Yes, I want Kodachrome! But I physically couldn't get it from anywhere :bang: , because
1. There no labs in Russia which develop Kodachrome. The nearest lab is in Switzeland, but:
2. The main reason: Russian Post prohibits the mailing of the "undeveloped photosensitive products" :bang:

Anyway thank you for the your offer 🙂

One more thing tovarishch-

Russia made colour film whose characteristics are quite charming. I have a book
(in Russian- and I could hardly understand it) "Fizicheskiye I Ximicheskiye Osnovy
Zvetnoi Fotografii". I always wondered how Svemacolor or Tasmacolor was. The only example I've seen Soviet colour is from an old film I saw, "Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears". At the credits it said it was shot on Svema color and Tasmacolor.

Jay
 
Evgeny, maybe it could be done with the courier services like UPS or FedEx: they have their own delivery network. Of course the cost of development would skyrocket then, but if you want it badly enough..
 
It's a picture. Rockwell was good, but I don't think that sort of bokeh in the background was really his style. It is a great shot.

Here's another in the same ilk (Nickolas Muray)

http://www.geh.org/taschen/htmlsrc9/m197100500038_ful.html#topofimage


and a Victor Keppler (doesn't the model sort of look like Drew Barrymore?)

http://www.geh.org/taschen/htmlsrc9/m197702920011_ful.html#topofimage



The George Eastmann House has a ton of these sorts of pics. Nickolas Muray is a good example . . . take an look at this link, click next for more - http://www.geh.org/fm/muray/murcol_sld00001.html

The GEH is a great site, by the way.
 
Up until the late 50s the premium printing process for adverts was 4-color carbon. (They no longer make the pigment tissues for this although it revives occasionally.) It's akin to carbro. I believe that's what we're viewing. The thing I'd try if I were you is to use high color film then Ilfochrome printing or if you really want the control, dye transfer.
 
w3rk5 said:
LOL! What’s more unsettling to me is the angle of the spaghetti on the fork. It must be travelling at some velocity. Yikes! 😛

Yes, that part definitely looks fake.

R.J.
 
Poptart said:
Up until the late 50s the premium printing process for adverts was 4-color carbon. (They no longer make the pigment tissues for this although it revives occasionally.) It's akin to carbro. I believe that's what we're viewing. The thing I'd try if I were you is to use high color film then Ilfochrome printing or if you really want the control, dye transfer.

OTOH, if you use a high-definition 1800-cartridge, full spectrum tonal EpsomSalts printer with premium digital-specific Canadian balsam-based paper and process via Abode's PictureShop enhanced color correction software you can go beyond carbro emunlation into protein-based image repro-deduction.
 
jano said:
It's a breadstick, not a wiener!

It's just a line to keep you looking at the food that the child is trying to inhale.

His mom must be swell as they used to say in the 1950's. Mother must be proud of her role as homemaker and forever grateful to the Franco-American spaghetti factory for producing a substance that her child cannot get enough of.
More info: http://www.plan59.com/av/av098.htm


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R.J.
 
To the rockwellers, I'm pretty sure it is a photograph.


Very interesting points made regarding the printing process, I really think that might be a large part about what I find interesting about these types of photographs....

Of strange devil children eating very disturbing looking food.
 
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