finguanzo
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Im with him CK Dexter Haven
jan normandale
Film is the other way
thanks Leigh and Contarama. Quite the interesting read. I was unaware that there is a second holder Jeffrey Goldstein of a substantial portion of her works. There's a website .. http://vivianmaierprints.com/index.html .. if you search there's also more.
What's also very interesting is Maier also took 'movies' , from what I can tell she shot 8mm.
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VictorM.
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Has anyone seen the exhibition catalogue produced from the images in Goldstein's possession?
Can you elaborate?
Texsport
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I have posted a PS to my original post.
The book has a retail price of $46.
At that price, almost evrything on the shelves at your local Barnes&Nobles is less expensive.
This isn't a very good argument.
Just off the top of my head--for better production and lower prices:
* Any and all National Geographic books
* Ansel Adams --coffee table sized <$40
* Annie Liebovitz- coffee table sized books
*Galen Rowell-coffee table sized books
Other types of photo books:
*Dorthea Lange's "Daring To Look"
* Sophie Howard & Stephen McCohen "Street Photography Now"
All of the above are better produced and cost less.
Texsport
Texsport
The book has a retail price of $46.
At that price, almost evrything on the shelves at your local Barnes&Nobles is less expensive.
This isn't a very good argument.
Just off the top of my head--for better production and lower prices:
* Any and all National Geographic books
* Ansel Adams --coffee table sized <$40
* Annie Liebovitz- coffee table sized books
*Galen Rowell-coffee table sized books
Other types of photo books:
*Dorthea Lange's "Daring To Look"
* Sophie Howard & Stephen McCohen "Street Photography Now"
All of the above are better produced and cost less.
Texsport
Texsport
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j j
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Could it be that you have a bad copy? A bad batch printed too dark happens more often than people might imagine.
dave lackey
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Most of what you are describing above was mid to late 60's. The 1950s were not dark at all. They were almost innocent only to be replaced by the Vietnam War in the 60's. Every year, every decade has a lot of bad things. People are bad, face it. But, when I look at what preceded the 1950s, I can no way state that the 1950s were dark as those returning from war had started families, buying homes and working at regular jobs. Times were pretty good IMO.:angel:
So, back to the OP...what about the book is "dark"?
fbf
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How many people in this post actually have the book? I am just curious.
I am simply expressing the disappointment because I had very high expectation for this book and pre-ordered it when it was first announced.
Her work is very inspiring but I can't see that from the book. I tell myself that I am paying $30 just to support the online site.
I am simply expressing the disappointment because I had very high expectation for this book and pre-ordered it when it was first announced.
Her work is very inspiring but I can't see that from the book. I tell myself that I am paying $30 just to support the online site.
Freakscene
Obscure member
I have the VM book. I paid more for it than I did for my copy of the Steidl "The Americans". The latter book, as an example, is vastly better printed, constructed and presented. I really like VM's photos, but somehow think that Maloof doesn't have her best work (at least from what I've seen) and the quality of the book was a letdown.
Marty
Marty
peter_n
Veteran
I have the book and reviewed it in the " latest additions to your library" thread a week ago. My copy of this book is excellent from an image quality, printing and binding perspective. I'm a frequent contributor to the "additions" thread and I have a lot of photo books for comparison; this book stands with the best of them.
Steve Bellayr
Veteran
"The 1950s were not dark at all." Correct me if I am wrong but the 1950's
Korean War 50000 dead/missing
Brown v. Board of Education 1954 Segregation and Civil Righst Marches in the South
Miscegnation was a crime punishable by imprisonment
McCarthy Hearings and Blacklisting
1956 Hungarian Uprsing
1960 Cuban Revolution1963 Cuban Missile Crisis
Wars in Africa, South America
First Arab Israel War 1950
Yes, I, too, look fondly back on those innocent days.
That doesn't include all the diseases that have since been cured
Korean War 50000 dead/missing
Brown v. Board of Education 1954 Segregation and Civil Righst Marches in the South
Miscegnation was a crime punishable by imprisonment
McCarthy Hearings and Blacklisting
1956 Hungarian Uprsing
1960 Cuban Revolution1963 Cuban Missile Crisis
Wars in Africa, South America
First Arab Israel War 1950
Yes, I, too, look fondly back on those innocent days.
That doesn't include all the diseases that have since been cured
JayM
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I am having a nice time looking at the book, but it isn't like it's the second coming of Christ or anything. I really like seeing people's reactions to her presence in the photographs (those that were not "posed" so to speak.) To me those are the most fascinating photographs in the book.
I'd really like to see more of her photographs. Seeing as she took so many of them and they are now being selected by third parties for printing I don't think it's an easy task to really grasp her vision without seeing more than a single book. In some ways the book feels like a "Greatest Hits" album. I feel like a lot of the photographs that I don't really care about might have more meaning/be more interesting to me with more context.
Interesting to me that the sociopolitical environment of the era is not relevant to some people when viewing something that is in large part a social document composed of and created by people in said environment. Ditto the personal life of the photographer.
I'd really like to see more of her photographs. Seeing as she took so many of them and they are now being selected by third parties for printing I don't think it's an easy task to really grasp her vision without seeing more than a single book. In some ways the book feels like a "Greatest Hits" album. I feel like a lot of the photographs that I don't really care about might have more meaning/be more interesting to me with more context.
Interesting to me that the sociopolitical environment of the era is not relevant to some people when viewing something that is in large part a social document composed of and created by people in said environment. Ditto the personal life of the photographer.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
jan normandale
Film is the other way
I suppose everyone's entitled to criticize a book but this is the most curious criticism of a book I've ever heard. Basically it's "the book's not good because other books are printed in a way you like and this isn't; additionally other books cost less so this book isn't as good... "
How do you order coffee in a restaurant? Is it a bad coffee if it's expensive and good if it's less expensive? This is definitely a different way to look at books.
Anyway I got your message in the OP and I'm genuinely sorry the book disappointed you, I found it to be a "two thumbs up"
Texsport
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Your posts are bordering on comedy. Please recall that it was your erroneous argument that the book cost $30 and was therefore an excellent bargain.
I don't look for book bargains, rather choosing volumes of quality.
We agree to disagree on the Maier book.:angel:
Texsport
celluloidprop
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I don't think I understand an argument based on MSRP rather than what you can actually procure it for. I'd hate to rely on B&N for my art book needs, their selection is fairly limited. Unless you're looking for one of the four million Ansel Adams books to give your dad so he can stick it on his coffee table or in his waiting room, etc..
In any case, my copy is excellent. The images are quite warm, but they're rich - in detail and in content.
In any case, my copy is excellent. The images are quite warm, but they're rich - in detail and in content.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
Yeah we disagree, I'm not concerned it's only a book. You've got a lot of nice hardware listed beneath your signature. I'm always interested in photography. I'd like to see your work. Do you have a link?
Lflex
Lflex
Received the book today. Printing is fine: I have seen better and much worse. Internet price of 26USD is absolutely fair. She had an amazing eye and curage and I am so happy her photographs were saved.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
This book's getting attention in the UK now. UK Daily Mail link below:
What the nanny saw: Housekeeper's stunning images of 1950s Chicago show working life in America in a new light
What the nanny saw: Housekeeper's stunning images of 1950s Chicago show working life in America in a new light
peter_n
Veteran
Some good reproductions there, thanks for the link. Amazing that a rubbish "newspaper" like the Daily Mail picked up on her. They probably read about her in the Guardian or the Telegraph, there's been a fair amount of publicity in the UK and the rest of Europe about her.