coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
Paul, good point and I think that's a great thing: good/interesting glass bumping up the camera/system. I don't take my digital camera out almost at all, and thought about selling off entirely, but 20/1.7 made me hold on to it because I loved the results, and now this lens is making me want to stick and possibly invest in the system once again.
And I'd really like to see 14, 17, 25 with F1.4 - F2.0 range in smaller size.
And I'd really like to see 14, 17, 25 with F1.4 - F2.0 range in smaller size.
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
It will be hard to stick with micro 4/3rds when a mirrorless full-frame camera is available.
You've already ditched your micro 4/3 gear for an M9, then?
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Black
Photographer.
Excitable Japanese cameraphile Mijonju is currently testing the Nokton f0.95 and has made a few none specific comment regarding it on his Twitter feed: http://twitter.com/mijonju - the most notable of which are "nokton 25mm f0.95 brings more color then the Noktor version from noktor.com"
and
"for the new price of the nokton 25mm 0.95 from cosina, I'll give up on the nokrot 50mm 0.95 from noktor."
Nokrot? A Freudian slip, perhaps?
I've asked him when he's going to post some sample images...
and
"for the new price of the nokton 25mm 0.95 from cosina, I'll give up on the nokrot 50mm 0.95 from noktor."
Nokrot? A Freudian slip, perhaps?
Kevincart
Newbie
I would love to see the 'peaking detection' style of focus assist (used in some professional video cameras) in a manual-style digital camera someday. The area of the picture that is in focus is pictured in color, while the rest of the field of view is B&W, typically.
I don't think it's possible to make a micro 4/3 rangefinder: to my understanding it wouldn't work without a mechanical lens coupling. The best you might see is something like the Contax G system, where autofocus is controlled with the rangefinder.
I am really enjoying the thought, right now, of Cosina making a solid body and lens range along the lines of this new 25mm, with an innovative EVF focusing system... What a dream that would be!
I don't think it's possible to make a micro 4/3 rangefinder: to my understanding it wouldn't work without a mechanical lens coupling. The best you might see is something like the Contax G system, where autofocus is controlled with the rangefinder.
I am really enjoying the thought, right now, of Cosina making a solid body and lens range along the lines of this new 25mm, with an innovative EVF focusing system... What a dream that would be!
pixelatedscraps
Well-known
Nope. OBJECTIVELY manual focusing on a m43 camera sucks compared to a dedicated manual focus camera. Both Oly and Panny dont build cameras for manual focusing. They build cameras to be used with their own lightweight autofocus lenses. There is no manual focus lens from the inventors of the system.
So please stop spreading bs about how great manual focusing on m43 cameras could be. It is not. Ive been there, it sucks. Especially for anything but still life.
I'd have to agree. It's usable in certain situations but for anything that moves, forget it, or you're pretty much limited to a context with extremely good lighting to maintain high shutter speeds and avoid blur. It's a great, fairly compact easy-to-use auto-focus camera that can accept and focus manual lenses - in a pinch.
pixelatedscraps
Well-known
I am really enjoying the thought, right now, of Cosina making a solid body and lens range along the lines of this new 25mm, with an innovative EVF focusing system... What a dream that would be!
Amen.
Bring on the Voigtlander DR-1!
tritiated
Well-known
This new lens and the involvement of cosina in the MFT in general has altered my stance from 'ignore' to 'patiently and enthusiastically observing' (read: generating GAS).
Just one thing about focussing; RF focussing isn't generally optimum for tagging moving subjects unless in good light, or using zone focus. It seems like a similar playing field to MFT with the magnification thing to me, no system is ideal in all photographic situations. There's plenty of argument above, but manual focussing on all systems is generally slower, which adds to the process if that's how you like to shoot?
Just one thing about focussing; RF focussing isn't generally optimum for tagging moving subjects unless in good light, or using zone focus. It seems like a similar playing field to MFT with the magnification thing to me, no system is ideal in all photographic situations. There's plenty of argument above, but manual focussing on all systems is generally slower, which adds to the process if that's how you like to shoot?
Black
Photographer.
And here we go, 1st known sample images from the new Nokton:
http://ganref.jp/magazines/index/1/0/378
And here it is on an E-P2:
http://mijonju.tumblr.com/post/1058836185/e-p2-25mm-f0-95-lens
Opinions?
http://ganref.jp/magazines/index/1/0/378
And here it is on an E-P2:
http://mijonju.tumblr.com/post/1058836185/e-p2-25mm-f0-95-lens
Opinions?
angeloks
Well-known
Anyone knows if when you touch the focussing ring, the camera detects it and zooms in?
douglasf13
Well-known
I wouldn't imagine so, since the lens has no electrical connection with the mount.
Black
Photographer.
Well, if someone can be bothered to translate my last post on the previous page (i.e. not me) then we may get a definitive answer.
chrisso
Established
There is no manual focus lens from the inventors of the system.
Most likely because the system is aimed at the consumer market rather than professional creative people. Most consumers want point and shoot.
The fact there is a burgeoning market for legacy lens adapters would seem to contradict your view. I have Leica M, Alpa and C Mount adapters.
So please stop spreading bs about how great manual focusing on m43 cameras could be. It is not. Ive been there, it sucks. Especially for anything but still life.
Rather than being objective you are stating your own opinion. Which is absolutely fine by the way. I have to say my opinion is the manual focusing on the GH-1 is great. So it's really not 'bs' for me to say so, it's my opinion based on my own experience.
I've virtually put away the kit lens and work exclusively with older manual lenses, which bring a wonderful texture to the GH1 images.
I find it no harder to manual focus on the GH-1 than the same on my M6 or RD1s.
JoeV
Thin Air, Bright Sun
There are discussions about this lens on other fora that are actively debating whether this new lens, although it will lack an autofocus system, has electrical contacts and a focus ring movement detection switch/sensor. Until we see the lens itself released, I'm not sure if we can totally discount the possibility.
gavinlg
Veteran
I'd be 99% sure it has electrical contacts - why wouldn't it? They're official m4/3 partners now, so they get all that information.
JohnnyT
Established
Hell yeah! 
I think the Noktor, can go back on the security camera... OOppps...
I think the Noktor, can go back on the security camera... OOppps...
douglasf13
Well-known
It has been confirmed by Steve Gandy of Cameraquest (the US Voigtlander dealer) that there are no electronic contacts on the new 25/.95 lens. So, it works no differently than any other manual lens, but an adapter isn't needed. http://www.cameraquest.com/voigt_m43.htm
sc_rufctr
Leica nuts
I wonder if they'll produce a Sony E Mount version???
Probably not considering the redesign that would be needed but I can dream.
Probably not considering the redesign that would be needed but I can dream.
gavinlg
Veteran
It has been confirmed by Steve Gandy of Cameraquest (the US Voigtlander dealer) that there are no electronic contacts on the new 25/.95 lens. So, it works no differently than any other manual lens, but an adapter isn't needed. http://www.cameraquest.com/voigt_m43.htm
Whaaaaaat!
so F stupid.
tritiated
Well-known
Black:
the shots look sharp enough at 0.95 on focus point, and attractive smooth /amorphous out of focus. Nice kind of haze on the focus of the glass subjects. A little distortion (books), but not distracting/detracting. Captures the boxing glove texture quite nicely.
At 2.8 is pretty sharp.
Looks relatively compact on the EP2 - not swamping it. That electronic viewfinder is pretty big!
Good work finding the link.
the shots look sharp enough at 0.95 on focus point, and attractive smooth /amorphous out of focus. Nice kind of haze on the focus of the glass subjects. A little distortion (books), but not distracting/detracting. Captures the boxing glove texture quite nicely.
At 2.8 is pretty sharp.
Looks relatively compact on the EP2 - not swamping it. That electronic viewfinder is pretty big!
Good work finding the link.
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