Voigtlander 50/1.1 Nokton Images !

Those shots look very good, sharp and nice bokeh - this lens is clearly gonna be a winner. Good for Cosina!
 
I was hoping this lens has more character to it's bokeh like the noctilux. The images look good, the bokeh reminds me of a Canon 50mm f/1.0

I for one cant wait for more images, I want to see how this lens does with OOF highlights.
 
it is very strange situation - here we have sharp lens with smooth bokeh and people ask for character.
if they made lens with swirly bokeh same people would say - cosina did a bad job again - they made lens with swirly bokeh.
it seems that many just wait chance to bash cosina...
i dont say they make perfect lenses and that cosina is God - i just respect their efforts to make new and interesting stuff for not so high prices...
 
nzeeman said:
it is very strange situation - here we have sharp lens with smooth bokeh and people ask for character.
if they made lens with swirly bokeh same people would say - cosina did a bad job again - they made lens with swirly bokeh.
it seems that many just wait chance to bash cosina...
i dont say they make perfect lenses and that cosina is God - i just respect their efforts to make new and interesting stuff for not so high prices...
Click to expand...

I agree, but if there was no dissension than there would be no discussion :) ... There will always be some people that will not be satisfied. I will probably buy it soon, after the "rush" wears off and any possible bugs or QC issues arise and are identified and remedied. It does look like a sweet lens. I will just have to be happy with a 35/1.2 and 50/1.2 for now! (poor me)
 
I have a Noctilux and I would buy this lens because it has a different signature / sharpness / look. Each lens has a unique "look" and should be used as such.
 
One question I have is - why does this lens cost so much?
I know all others similar to it are even more, but really, CV 35/1.2 is sold by CQ for $879 USD. And its a one of a kind lens - only 35mm lens thats so fast, has great IQ and focuses down to 0.7m. They say that it's harder to make a fast wide lens than fast normal lens. So, now we have a new CV 50/1.1 that sells for $1150, not ASPH (which may be preference for some), focuses down to 1m. There are several other 50mm lenses that are fast at 1.o or 1.2 - yet more expensive, in most cases, I know. And image quality is still unknown - I cant say much based on a very few pics I have seen from the CV 50/1.1, but so far it is NOT better than CV 35/1.2.

So, why does it cost $1150, where CV 35/1.2 costs $879? The way I see it, it should sell for $879 or LESS!!!!
All this said, I do admire Cosina for making these new and interesting lenses and hope they will do well. Who knows, I may get one too, once I see more pics from it.
 
The OP shots look good, better than the stuff on the cosina.jp site (some of which look pretty soft to me). It's character looks similar to the 35 1.2, but not quite as buttery smooth. I do think this will probably be my next lens purchase.

As far as cost goes, is there another m-mount 50 that's that fast currently in production? I'm not wealthy by any stretch but $1150 seems about right to me. Even think about Canon L primes (apples and oranges I know) - are any that cheap? The 50L is what, $1400? I think the price is pretty good.
 
morgan said:
As far as cost goes, is there another m-mount 50 that's that fast currently in production? I'm not wealthy by any stretch but $1150 seems about right to me. Even think about Canon L primes (apples and oranges I know) - are any that cheap? The 50L is what, $1400? I think the price is pretty good.
Click to expand...

Well, what I was saying is - why does a lens from the same company, that is supposedly more difficult to make and which has no alternatives (all this makes it more valueable) sells for less than this new lens that is still made by Cosina, supposedly easier to make, has other alternatives (at different costs), - yet sells for more? I'm not saying it's not "pretty good" - for what it is - its a decent price. But rather, if Cosina could make a lens such as CV 35/1.2 at less than $900, I dont see why they couldnt make 50/1.1 at the same or even less?
 
Good job, benny! thanks for sharing.

I think this is one of RF camera's real strength, it would be darn near impossible to focus an f/1.1 lens using an SLR, and get a high hit rate, wouldn't it?

I'm amazed at how precise the rf-coupling mechanism had to be in order to get the focus on the dot like this.
 
Krosya said:
Well, what I was saying is - why does a lens from the same company, that is supposedly more difficult to make and which has no alternatives (all this makes it more valueable) sells for less than this new lens that is still made by Cosina, supposedly easier to make, has other alternatives (at different costs), - yet sells for more? I'm not saying it's not "pretty good" - for what it is - its a decent price. But rather, if Cosina could make a lens such as CV 35/1.2 at less than $900, I dont see why they couldnt make 50/1.1 at the same or even less?
Click to expand...

That's a solid point, but I would assume they're evaluating it against other 50s and charging accordingly. In general it seems that cosina's pricing isn't very gougey and I doubt they would do that here. On the flip side, there's just not a lot of competition for this lens, and $1150 is a steal compared to a noctilux.
 
That said, I wonder how many more they would sell at say $879. Crossing the 1k barrier is a big mental block for me.
 
morgan said:
That's a solid point, but I would assume they're evaluating it against other 50s and charging accordingly. In general it seems that cosina's pricing isn't very gougey and I doubt they would do that here. On the flip side, there's just not a lot of competition for this lens, and $1150 is a steal compared to a noctilux.
Click to expand...

in fact, the japanese msrp of 50/1.1 is cheaper than 35/1.2 $10000yen. And 50/1.1 is cheaper than 35/1.2 in Hong Kong.
 
The bokeh is too smooth tsk, tsk, tsk.

I think it does what it should, blurs the out of focus areas without dominating/competing with the subject. Give me smooth OOFs anyday, at least I won't feel like I've been on a three day alcohol binge when I look at the picture with all the swirly bokeh.

I wish it focused to .7 instead of 1 meter but that will not be a deal breaker for me.

Todd
 
morgan said:
What's the street price in Japan? I'm heading to Tokyo next month and maybe I could pick one up there...
Click to expand...

As i know, japan street price is around 95000yen, and in hk, someone just said it's selling around usd770. FYI, 35/1.2 is usd820 in hk.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom