Voigtlander 50/1.1 Nokton Images !

Well, what I was saying is - why does a lens from the same company, that is supposedly more difficult to make and which has no alternatives (all this makes it more valueable) sells for less than this new lens that is still made by Cosina, supposedly easier to make, has other alternatives (at different costs), - yet sells for more? I'm not saying it's not "pretty good" - for what it is - its a decent price. But rather, if Cosina could make a lens such as CV 35/1.2 at less than $900, I dont see why they couldnt make 50/1.1 at the same or even less?
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Lensse are always dearer at release and market forces drive them down so it will come down a bit but dont forget that its been over 5 years since the 35 was developed economic development costs and currency values have taken a pounding since then. I dont think your comment under those circumstances is correct. Its a very fair price.
 
I'm looking at the new Noctilux 50mm f/0.95 it seems Leica went the same way as far as smooth vs character in the bokeh.
 
Krosya said:
So, why does it cost $1150, where CV 35/1.2 costs $879? The way I see it, it should sell for $879 or LESS!!!!
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Well, Judging from the picture, the 50/1.1 is thicker than the 35/1.2. So maybe they are priced by the diameter:)

-- Yefei
 
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Krosya said:
So, why does it cost $1150, where CV 35/1.2 costs $879? The way I see it, it should sell for $879 or LESS!!!!
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I'd say it's because the lens is new on the market and the demand is high. After some time the price will go down.
And considering the price in Germany, your USD 1150 is a bargain. We got to pay USD 1400 over here. Some dealer wanted to offer the lens with a discount for just USD 1230 , but other dealers complained to Ringfoto (main distributor and owner of the Voigtländer brand). So in the end there is no discount here at all.

I'll just stick with the lenses I got for now. Perhaps I'll get one for X-mas.
 
yoyo22 said:
I'd say it's because the lens is new on the market and the demand is high. After some time the price will go down.
And considering the price in Germany, your USD 1150 is a bargain. We got to pay USD 1400 over here. Some dealer wanted to offer the lens with a discount for just USD 1230 , but other dealers complained to Ringfoto (main distributor and owner of the Voigtländer brand). So in the end there is no discount here at all.

I'll just stick with the lenses I got for now. Perhaps I'll get one for X-mas.
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that's why i always think HK is the best place to get equipments. Just $770 here~:)
 
The Nokton looks sharper at F1.1 then the noctilux... So far I like what I see. The again maybe the focus is off on the noctilux as the film box seems more in focus that with the nokton.
 
It's funny, in those shots i like the sharpness of the Nokton but the dreamy OOF of the noctilux. If I had to pick though, based on those shots of the camera and bottle, I'd pick the Nokton.
 
Thank you!

Thank you!

bennyng said:
Since you asked...

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Cheers,
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I already have the 35/1.2 and was wondering the same thing. Thanks for posting.
 
Krosya said:
One question I have is - why does this lens cost so much?
I know all others similar to it are even more, but really, CV 35/1.2 is sold by CQ for $879 USD. And its a one of a kind lens - only 35mm lens thats so fast, has great IQ and focuses down to 0.7m. They say that it's harder to make a fast wide lens than fast normal lens. So, now we have a new CV 50/1.1 that sells for $1150, not ASPH (which may be preference for some), focuses down to 1m. There are several other 50mm lenses that are fast at 1.o or 1.2 - yet more expensive, in most cases, I know. And image quality is still unknown - I cant say much based on a very few pics I have seen from the CV 50/1.1, but so far it is NOT better than CV 35/1.2.

So, why does it cost $1150, where CV 35/1.2 costs $879? The way I see it, it should sell for $879 or LESS!!!!
All this said, I do admire Cosina for making these new and interesting lenses and hope they will do well. Who knows, I may get one too, once I see more pics from it.
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Because businesses are in business to make money. Cosina will charge what they believe the market will bear. Prices will come down over time, unless this is a limited run and it turns out to be a stellar performer all around. Prices are all about supply and demand, and so far the demand for this lens looks to be rather high.
 
Question: anyone already able to post shots made with a film camera? The Epsons smaller sensor size increases DOF and I'm interested to see differences (if existent at all) on film. The lesser of the two lenses will probably have double lines in the highlights from OOF areas.

On the Epson, the OOF looks very nice, and I can hardly distinguish between the two. The Noktons slightly cooler color is easily corrected should one feel its too blueish. Good to see that the initial tests in a Japanese magazine showed similar results; the Nokton is like the Nikkor 1.1 when it comes to color, and like the Noctilux when it comes to OOF areas.
 
it actually doesn't increase the DOF. only if you compare it to 75mm lenses on full frame :D ...but I can't think of a 75mm f1.1... evidently, the DOF stays the same while just the crop changes</offtopic>.
but you are right, I'd like to see a little more of its performance on the edges at f1.1, so shots on film would be greatly appreciated =)
 
shadowfox said:
Good job, benny! thanks for sharing.

I think this is one of RF camera's real strength, it would be darn near impossible to focus an f/1.1 lens using an SLR, and get a high hit rate, wouldn't it?

I'm amazed at how precise the rf-coupling mechanism had to be in order to get the focus on the dot like this.
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I focus f/1.2-lenses on a slr all the time, and get a pretty ok hit rate (80-90% area I would guess).

It takes practice.. ;)
 
ulrikft said:
I focus f/1.2-lenses on a slr all the time, and get a pretty ok hit rate (80-90% area I would guess).

It takes practice.. ;)
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I agree ... a 1.2 on an SLR makes for a very bright image on the focusing screen! (depending on the camera of course)
 
These images look great, and considering the price - this will be THE M lens to get this year. I only wish there was a faster 28mm, but I am excited to get this lens , both on M4-P, and my Lumix G1. And to think I was searching around on Ebay a few weeks back, looking for a Canon f/0.95 pshaw. CV is definitely on a roll, I wouldn't be surprised if they take a second stab at a digital rangefinder and do a full frame before an M9 ever makes it to the market.
 
Does anyone (from Oz) know when our distibutor (mainlinephoto) is going to have the lens in stock?

Not that I'm interested! :eek:

In fact I'm trying very hard to avoid this thread! :D
 
Keith said:
Does anyone (from Oz) know when our distibutor (mainlinephoto) is going to have the lens in stock?

Not that I'm interested! :eek:

In fact I'm trying very hard to avoid this thread! :D
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i can relate keith...i have a perfectly wonderful sonnar 50/1.5, way plenty fast for me and yet i keep thinking about this lens also...and i don't even care for 50s!!

joe
 
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