Voigtlander 50/1.1 Nokton Images !

padraigm said:
Just got notice from mainline that my lens has been shipped out today :)
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i was there today. their shipment cleared customs, but too late to be delivered. it will be in tomorrow morning. need another 2 weeks for 58mm uv/ir cut filters...
 
After looking at some more pics, I'm sort of puzzled as to why DOF is so large/deep at 1.1? It seems that with Canon 50/1.2, CV 35/1.2 and from what I have seen from Noctilux and Hex 1.2 - they all seem to have shallower DOF. Or am I seeing things? ;)
 
from your pics its pretty clear that the Nokton is much sharper then the Nocti. I wonder how it will compare to the new Nocti. BUt maybe the Nocti is a bit front focused because the box of film looks much sharper on the Nocti pics.
For me it's clear, I want one.

Cheers,

Michiel Fokkema
 
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Krosya said:
After looking at some more pics, I'm sort of puzzled as to why DOF is so large/deep at 1.1? It seems that with Canon 50/1.2, CV 35/1.2 and from what I have seen from Noctilux and Hex 1.2 - they all seem to have shallower DOF. Or am I seeing things? ;)
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I had the same impression, the DoF isn't very shallow for f/1.1, looks more like f/1.4 or f/2.0 to me.
 
Krosya said:
After looking at some more pics, I'm sort of puzzled as to why DOF is so large/deep at 1.1? It seems that with Canon 50/1.2, CV 35/1.2 and from what I have seen from Noctilux and Hex 1.2 - they all seem to have shallower DOF. Or am I seeing things? ;)
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field curvature, softening the corners of the older lenses probably
 
Michiel Fokkema said:
from your pics its pretty clear that the Nokton is much sharper then the Nocti. I wonder how it will compare to the new Nocti. BUt maybe the Nocti is a bit front focused because the box of film looks much sharper on the Nocti pics.
For me it's clear, I want one.

Cheers,

Michiel Fokkema
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Quite a few other friends have mentioned that the Nokton seems more forgiving at f/1.1 in terms of the depth of field.

I think the earlier picture with the Leica Noctilux-M 50mm f/1.0 @ f/1.0 may be slightly front focused.

I'll try again with a better set up. Got the idea of a biscuit box and a magazine/newspaper placed at 45 degrees. That should give a better idea of how much depth of field each of the 3 lenses have at 1 m as we examine the sharp bits.

Cheers,
 
kshapero said:
Still my question? Should I forget about mating this lens with my CV Bessa R3M? I am hoping for a definitive answer.
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The Bessa R3M is a lifesize viewfinder. The Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f/1.1 with the supplied hood does protrude into the viewfinder. Focusing is not difficult at all. Whilst I have not shot the lens on the R3M, the R-D1 has the same viewfinder and most of my shots are spot on.

Hope the information is helpful.

Cheers,

p.s. if you like, I can try to get a picture of what you see through the R3M viewfinder. I think my Panasonic LX-3 can just about manage that.
 
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Only thing I don't like is the strong purple fringing. Not a big issue with black & white but with colour it's difficult to correct on an ultra-fast lens as it's usually out of focus and thus larger with a gradient to it.

I definitely like the sharpness and coma control for such a fast lens. I'm planning some night time street shooting when mine arrives and will post shots when I'm done but I'm a slow shooter so everyone will probably be sick of images from this lens by then ;)
 
THANX for the pixs Bennyng & Morgan....:cool:

The 50 1.1 looks Lovely
but to my Eye
not Enough of a Signature so to speak
Nice smooth falloff, dead center sharp, Great Price
but something is Missing

I'm now going instead for less speed and more of a 'LOOK'
which the Nokton 50/ 1.5 seems to have
I realize it can all be rather Subjective...:)
Thanx...Best to All - helen
 
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I just got mine this afternoon and tested it on my M8.

In the street after buying it...




Not as much character as my C-Sonnar 50/1.5 but still pretty good (especially at the price it is available for here in Hong Kong....:D).
 
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helenhill said:
THANX for the pixs Bennyng & Morgan....:cool:

The 50 1.1 looks Lovely
but to my Eye
not Enough of a Signature so to speak
Nice smooth falloff, dead center sharp, Great Price
but something is Missing

I'm now going instead for less speed and more of a 'LOOK'
which the Nokton 50/ 1.5 seems to have
I realize it can all be rather Subjective...:)
Thanx...Best to All - helen
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I agree with you and meven. It doesn't seem to have a ton of character (whatever that means - individual signature I guess), but I like the way it draws a lot. I feel like I'd need a sonnar to go along with it. But I'm still really impressed. The shots from the last few days have been consistently sharp wide open, which is kind of amazing.
 
Thanks for the shots, Benny and others.

Could somebody please measure the true speed of the lens by shooting the same subject with the Nokton and another fast lens, at fixed aperture and speed (no Auto, please) and showing histograms ?

Thanks a lot,

Roland.
 
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ulrikft said:
I focus f/1.2-lenses on a slr all the time, and get a pretty ok hit rate (80-90% area I would guess).

It takes practice.. ;)
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Sure, I know with practice, you can be proficient with it. But contrast that with an RF camera. No difference in focusing accuracy if you use f/1.1 or f/16.
 
Chiif Ho said:
At f2...

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I do not very much like the sharpness of the confusion-circle of the specular highlight in the out of focus background. The confusioncircle must be unsharp because the sharpness contredicts the feeling of dept. Also the clearly shown aperture blades at the borders of the specular highlight are ugly.

Erik.
 
ferider said:
Thanks for the shots, Benny and others.

Could somebody please measure the true speed of the lens by shooting the same subject with the Nokton and another fast lens, at fixed aperture and speed (no Auto, please) and showing histograms ?

Thanks a lot,

Roland.
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Roland,

I doubt I will be able to do this, I simply do not have time for that. But somehow, the Nokton does not seem to be a f1.1 lens, it looks a bit slower.
 
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most aperture values are rounded by vendors. while it may be closer to f/1.2, it's probably not that far from f/1.1. you can measure it with a ruler and calculate yourself (assuming the focal length is 50mm...) the actual aperture. i would seriously doubt many people here could tell the difference between f/1.1 and what its *actual* aperture is based on sample photos.
 
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