Voigtlander 50/1.1 Nokton Images !

Prosaic said:
Are you kidding? That is what the whole Nocti hype is about. A fascinating look that no other lens creates.
http://www.flickriver.com/groups/63271221@N00/pool/interesting/
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A cosina 55/1.2 SLR lens renders just like that. Brilliant photographs none the less. Believe me if I owned a noctilux I wouldn't sell it to buy the Nokton, but I cannot see anything in those shots that couldn't have happened with the Nokton/Canon0.95 and still had the same intrigue and impact.

edodo said:
On the noctilux subject, I have saw many shots where the rendition is just like a big format film. The OOF is so smooth and the Focal point is so sharp, it costs this price for a reason.
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Sorry for the colour cast, the lab cross processed my film by ignorance. Unfortunately it's just a low res scan, when I start digitizing my own negatives/slides I'll repost some images.
 
Tom A said:
I have no idea what the discussion is about here. The Nokton 50 f1.1 is a modern, ultra fast normal at an affordable price. Performance is stellar by any standard. One reason i did not like the Noctiluxes was its signature - not particularly good in mid-range, soft contrast at f1.0 etc. It wasn't that I didn't try to like it - went through 6 of them!
I have tried and used the Nikon/Zunow 50 1.1, the Konica 60f1.2 (only one that comes even close to the Nokton's performance - haven't shot enough with the 50f1.2 Konica to warrant an opinion). the Canon 0.95/50 - didn't like it.
Of course, if you are looking for a lens with 'signature" - go for the Noctilux - but I want 1 more stop and the edge of a Nokton 50f1.5. The "fuzzy" stuff may fall were it falls - thats not what I am interested in.
As always, to each his own and for me that will be the Nokton!!!
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Tom, I agree to most of your points especially that the new Nokton is stellar in terms of performance. A long while back I was still in England, there was a guy who buy ISO 50 film only so that he can shoot his Noctilux wide open in the day light. I thought he was kind of insane...

Gradually I understood that he may not have been as insane as I though. Most people don't need f1 speed anyway, they buy such a lens for the "signature" at large aperture settings. 😛

Of course bright, sharp etc can be defined as the signature of this Nokton. For some, this is the signature they would like to have, for others it may not be. 🙂

Leica can therefore keep hold to their pricing of the Noctilux with reasons be that the new Nokton don't have the "signature" of their Nocti. Oh...dear :angel:
 
Peter Klein said:
There are cheaper ways than a Noctilux to get "character." Try a Canon 50/1.2 wide open. Or a Summitar (coma city!). Or a (classic screw-mount) Summarit. Or any Sonnar-design lens.

People complained about the VC 35/1.2 having a lack of character, too. I think it's wonderful.
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I have tried all of those lenses you list and while each does offer something in terms of signature - none are like Noctilux. Also, i too own a CV 35/1.2 and love it, and I have never seen anyone complain about it's lack of character, actually, rather people rave about it's signature. What people usually complain about when it comes to this lens is it's size and weight.
 
fleetwoodjazz said:
Tom, I agree to most of your points especially that the new Nokton is stellar in terms of performance. A long while back I was still in England, there was a guy who buy ISO 50 film only so that he can shoot his Noctilux wide open in the day light. I thought he was kind of insane...

Gradually I understood that he may not have been as insane as I though. Most people don't need f1 speed anyway, they buy such a lens for the "signature" at large aperture settings. 😛

Of course bright, sharp etc can be defined as the signature of this Nokton. For some, this is the signature they would like to have, for others it may not be. 🙂

Leica can therefore keep hold to their pricing of the Noctilux with reasons be that the new Nokton don't have the "signature" of their Nocti. Oh...dear :angel:
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I mostly agree with this too. I think that a new Nokton is a great lens, even it's signature is OK. Based on what I have seen from it - its not as nice as CV 35/1.2, but good enough. However, what bothers me the most about the high speed lens like this, is it's large-ish DOF, compared to other similar lenses. Me, personally, I like fast lenses for that narrow DOF wide open and I'm not sure 50/1.1 delivers it. Thats why I just keep looking at pics from it, hoping to be proved wrong, as I really would like to buy this lens. Yet recent Noctilux lenses in classifieds here look very tempting.
 
0bli0 said:
wow!! what film base??! they're *great* hues for xpro and i'd love to give it a go. i thought i'd xpro'd just about everything...
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Haha I'll ask my kodak shop. The film is provia 100f, I think what happened is they put c-41 chemicals in the e-6 machine just as I arrived (witnessed them toppin up the machine) because one end of my negatives show extreme xpro, the other end are just oddly hued in the slightest like this one.

Dan
 
Likewise 😉 More from the same roll, sorry about misfocus in 2
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oops focused near infinity, cocked shutter then admired the lens and accidently pressed shutter button for an impromptu blurred self-portrait:
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The lens really performs in mid-apertures too, here are f/4 and f/8 respectively on superia 400:
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I think that's enough for now.
 
Krosya said:
I mostly agree with this too. I think that a new Nokton is a great lens, even it's signature is OK. Based on what I have seen from it - its not as nice as CV 35/1.2, but good enough. However, what bothers me the most about the high speed lens like this, is it's large-ish DOF, compared to other similar lenses. Me, personally, I like fast lenses for that narrow DOF wide open and I'm not sure 50/1.1 delivers it. Thats why I just keep looking at pics from it, hoping to be proved wrong, as I really would like to buy this lens. Yet recent Noctilux lenses in classifieds here look very tempting.
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I agree. And i just sold my nokton to a friend because i found a bargain on a user condition Noct with perfect glass. But i don't mean Nokton is bad, it delivers something that Noct is not able to and vice versa. 😉
 
Krosya said:
I mostly agree with this too. I think that a new Nokton is a great lens, even it's signature is OK. Based on what I have seen from it - its not as nice as CV 35/1.2, but good enough. However, what bothers me the most about the high speed lens like this, is it's large-ish DOF, compared to other similar lenses. Me, personally, I like fast lenses for that narrow DOF wide open and I'm not sure 50/1.1 delivers it. Thats why I just keep looking at pics from it, hoping to be proved wrong, as I really would like to buy this lens. Yet recent Noctilux lenses in classifieds here look very tempting.
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I keep wondering how close the lens is to an actual F1.1 - the 35/1.2 seems to be a bit slower than 1.2 when compared with a Hex 1.2. I am sure it's fast enough, but I don't know of any reason the DOF wold be greater than any other 1.1 lenses.

BTW, some very impressive shots have been posted in this thread!
 
Double Negative said:
This image seems to show a pretty narrow DoF (not sure who's it is):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/reds42/3699441262/in/pool-nokton50f11
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Hello all! That'll be me then! Found this by the magic of the Flickr stats page. Just dropped in to say hello !

I'm new to RFs & film, so have no opinions on alternative lenses (yet)! All I know is, I love 50mm; it's a focal length I use a lot in digital (Nikon 50 F/1.2 AIS is my fave on a D700).

And so far, a mere 1st roll in on Fuji Superia 200, I think I'm going to like this lens! I got a few shots that I really like stopped down a bit. I think it's got a beautiful character stopped down a few clicks - like these 2 shots from Sunday.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/reds42/3699431236/in/pool-nokton50f11
http://www.flickr.com/photos/reds42/3699369466/in/pool-nokton50f11/

Haven't really had a chance to use it wide open much, as the light was either gone completely or too bright when I was out at the weekend with it! I'm looking forward to doing some wide open low light shots. I'll post back when I have something to actually contribute 😉

Cheers, Nick.
 
one thing I do not understand about the example full aperature photos posted here, considering that DOF is a purely mathematical thing, is why this lens appears to have much deeper DOF at 1.1 compared to the 50 hex at 1.2. I would never have guessed that *any* of the photos in this thread were shot at 1.1.

This is the absolute perfect lens for all the noctilux naysayers and for anyone that just wants more speed without buying a bunch of "character". On a personal note, judging by the reasons why I reach for my 1.2 hex or even the 1.4 lux, I would never use this lens if it was on my shelf. Id love to try one out and do a proper comparison for myself, but its somewhat baffling to think that any of these photos were shot at 1.1, not saying they werent...
 
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