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Voigtlander Bessa R w/ 35/2.5 C
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Goodyear
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That's the thing. I picked up the exact same deal before Christmas, and as a confirmed SLR (incl. digital) nut, I'm hooked.rover said:
The postman has literally just brought me my new 21 and 75, just in time for a little holiday next week. The 21 will finally give me something to do with the L I bought at the same time just because 'at that price, I may as well - I fancy a super-wide soon anyway'!
scottgee1
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Joe, you must be joking . . . it's WAY too easy to "ask for more" . . . and I we usually do!
😉 /ScottGee1
scottgee1
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Ted, I'll play devil's advocate here . . .
As nice as the 'R' is, one of the 'M' mount bodies gives you much greater flexibility in lens choices. Yes, there are a lot of fine and interesting LTM lenses out there, but an 'M' allows you to use that series of lenses in addition to the LTMs. Adapters required, of course
my two mounts worth . . . 😉 /ScottGee1
As nice as the 'R' is, one of the 'M' mount bodies gives you much greater flexibility in lens choices. Yes, there are a lot of fine and interesting LTM lenses out there, but an 'M' allows you to use that series of lenses in addition to the LTMs. Adapters required, of course
my two mounts worth . . . 😉 /ScottGee1
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As I've found out, the M's longer base length allows you to focus more accuately at smaller apertures on longer lenses (90 cron @ f2, for example). So I guess you have more lens choices and flexibility with an M. My new CL, that is being shipped as we speak, also has a short base length and Sherry Krauter said I can use my 90 cron on it up to f4, no smaller. If you do mostly wide then it's not a problem. But the Bessas are very tempting and offer great bang for the buck!
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scottgee1 said:
yes, mostly true, but i have managed to stick with this small cv combo even while amassing a bigger complement of canon lenses and bodies.
i may be travelling home in july and i'm already stuck as to which camera to bring along for the visit.
at first thought, the canons, 7 & p, along with 35/50/85.
then i'm thinking the bessa cause it's so tiny and light.
gonna be a tough decision down to the wire if i know me.
joe
FrankS
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Which cameras to take on trips provide me with hours of thought, a pleasant activity.
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FrankS said:
When using my Canon EOS stuff, my wife always laughs when she sees me with my camera, lenses and bags spread out across the floor, trying to decide what combo to bring! (Maybe this will give me some insight as to how long she takes to decide what to wear!) But with my MP and 2 lenses, it's very easy to just up and go.
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tedwhite
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Scottgee1: Thank you for the heads up. However, in addition to the 35/2.5 I don't think I'll need more than two additional lenses. Perhaps a 24 or 28, and a 90.
If I need long lenses (which are a bitch to schlep about) I've got plenty in my Spotmatic kit (100, 135, 200, 300). The reason for the Bessa purchase is to have a light, unobtrusive, small camera. I'm much more likely to walk out of the house with such a camera than with a kit bag weighing fifteen pounds. As an example, the Olympus XA lives in the cell phone pocket of my leather jacket.
As for the limitation of the screwmount body, if I only need a couple more lenses, I don't see it as a limitation. I'm assuming M39 lenses are available on ebay at fairly reasonable prices.
When I get the camera (ordering this AM) I'll be asking all of you for tips on which lenses to look for.
Ted
If I need long lenses (which are a bitch to schlep about) I've got plenty in my Spotmatic kit (100, 135, 200, 300). The reason for the Bessa purchase is to have a light, unobtrusive, small camera. I'm much more likely to walk out of the house with such a camera than with a kit bag weighing fifteen pounds. As an example, the Olympus XA lives in the cell phone pocket of my leather jacket.
As for the limitation of the screwmount body, if I only need a couple more lenses, I don't see it as a limitation. I'm assuming M39 lenses are available on ebay at fairly reasonable prices.
When I get the camera (ordering this AM) I'll be asking all of you for tips on which lenses to look for.
Ted
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ted,
don't dismiss the 75. it is smaller and faster than the 90 and one step forward makes up the difference in coverage.
some who have used both preferred the 75.
joe
don't dismiss the 75. it is smaller and faster than the 90 and one step forward makes up the difference in coverage.
some who have used both preferred the 75.
joe
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tedwhite
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Just Ordered it
Just Ordered it
Just got off the phone with Mr. Gandy. I ordered the Bessa R w/35/2.5, both in black.
Now comes the wait.
Ted
Just Ordered it
Just got off the phone with Mr. Gandy. I ordered the Bessa R w/35/2.5, both in black.
Now comes the wait.
Ted
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Natalia
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got you just hate the "waiting" part?
Congratulations. Steven is pretty quick, it is a one man shop so you talked to the owner, manager, sales/serviceman, and shipping department at Cameraquest. I am sure your wait won't be long.
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tedwhite
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Well, he's in California and I'm in Arizona and the two share a common border, so it shouldn't take too long. I did not order the rectangular LH-2 lens hood after I learned that you could see part of it in the viewfinder.
NOW my question is this. I looked at rangefinder lenes on ebay in LTM. How do I know which lenses are rangefinder/viewfinder coupled to my new Bessa R?
I am thinking in terms of either a 75mm or a 90mm. And on the wide end perhaps a 28mm.
There are some fast Canon lenses out there (50mm) but I have no idea what happens after you fit them to the camera.
So I'll welcome some suggestions here.
Ted
NOW my question is this. I looked at rangefinder lenes on ebay in LTM. How do I know which lenses are rangefinder/viewfinder coupled to my new Bessa R?
I am thinking in terms of either a 75mm or a 90mm. And on the wide end perhaps a 28mm.
There are some fast Canon lenses out there (50mm) but I have no idea what happens after you fit them to the camera.
So I'll welcome some suggestions here.
Ted
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a canon 50mm lens should work fine on the bessa r, same as a cv lens. just screw it on and you're good to go.
canon also has a very nice 85/2 lens that works on the r. you would need to use either the 75 or 90 framelines. you could get an external finder for 85 but i think that would be overkill.
i'd probably look for a used cv 75 just cause it's very small and light and mates to the light r body nicely.
the cv 28/3.5 is tiny and gets great reviews.
try cameraquest for info about what doesn't fit/couple to the bessa. there are only a handful that won't work.
joe
canon also has a very nice 85/2 lens that works on the r. you would need to use either the 75 or 90 framelines. you could get an external finder for 85 but i think that would be overkill.
i'd probably look for a used cv 75 just cause it's very small and light and mates to the light r body nicely.
the cv 28/3.5 is tiny and gets great reviews.
try cameraquest for info about what doesn't fit/couple to the bessa. there are only a handful that won't work.
joe
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tedwhite
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Thank you Backalley, my friend from the frozen north, this is precisely the kind of info I need.
I'm still feeling my way in terms of howthe rangefinder relates to the lens affixed to the camera body. May I assume that if you attach a 50mm lens and set the camera lens switch to 50, that's it? But then what? You take a meter reading and it tells you that the aperture is too large, so you stop it down, or you've got to adjust the shutter speed to stay in the ball park? In other words, sounds just like what I have to do with my Olympus XA?
And, unlike my Spotmatic, when you activate the meter switch it pushes the plate that pushes the pin sticking out of the rear of the lens that stops down the aperture and gives you a TTL reading. Well, wait, I guess they both do the same thing, only in a different way.
Am I close?
Ted
I'm still feeling my way in terms of howthe rangefinder relates to the lens affixed to the camera body. May I assume that if you attach a 50mm lens and set the camera lens switch to 50, that's it? But then what? You take a meter reading and it tells you that the aperture is too large, so you stop it down, or you've got to adjust the shutter speed to stay in the ball park? In other words, sounds just like what I have to do with my Olympus XA?
And, unlike my Spotmatic, when you activate the meter switch it pushes the plate that pushes the pin sticking out of the rear of the lens that stops down the aperture and gives you a TTL reading. Well, wait, I guess they both do the same thing, only in a different way.
Am I close?
Ted
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slow down ted, i'm getting dizzy.
one of the other, more technical, guys can give you the whys & hows way better than i can.
for the bessa r, think basic.
you set the shutter speed and aperture till the middle circle lights up in the viewfinder.
i'm an aperture priority kind of guy, so i usually choose the f stop i want to shoot at and move the shutter speed dial till the circle lights up.
sometimes it's the opposite if i need a fater or slower shutter speed.
for lenses, yes, you set the framelines on the r with the small top mounted dial.
i like the cv lenses cause they mate to the camera so well, in terms of size and finish. i just think they suit each other.
but other lenses will fit also, like the canons.
when you get the r in your hands i think it will be easier to see what i mean. it's a comfortable camera to hold/use and i would not want to throw off that 'feel' with a lens that might be a bit bigger or heavier.
this is a very personal decision though and my way of thinking is not always in concert with others when it comes to these things.
joe
one of the other, more technical, guys can give you the whys & hows way better than i can.
for the bessa r, think basic.
you set the shutter speed and aperture till the middle circle lights up in the viewfinder.
i'm an aperture priority kind of guy, so i usually choose the f stop i want to shoot at and move the shutter speed dial till the circle lights up.
sometimes it's the opposite if i need a fater or slower shutter speed.
for lenses, yes, you set the framelines on the r with the small top mounted dial.
i like the cv lenses cause they mate to the camera so well, in terms of size and finish. i just think they suit each other.
but other lenses will fit also, like the canons.
when you get the r in your hands i think it will be easier to see what i mean. it's a comfortable camera to hold/use and i would not want to throw off that 'feel' with a lens that might be a bit bigger or heavier.
this is a very personal decision though and my way of thinking is not always in concert with others when it comes to these things.
joe
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tedwhite
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Sorry about the speedy post.
Re: comfortable to hold and use. I've read other posts saying essentially the same thing. I like the fact that it's the same size as a Leica M2 and weighs 6 1/2 ounces less. And a light camera with a light lens that doesn't unbalance it is to be admired.
I recently purchased a fast 28/1.9 lens for my Spotmatic and it is such a large chunk of glass I feel as if I'm carrying medium format around. I no longer hold the camera, I hold the lens, and my right hand merely operates the shutter release and film advance lever. The center of balance has clearly shifted to the lens.
Re: comfortable to hold and use. I've read other posts saying essentially the same thing. I like the fact that it's the same size as a Leica M2 and weighs 6 1/2 ounces less. And a light camera with a light lens that doesn't unbalance it is to be admired.
I recently purchased a fast 28/1.9 lens for my Spotmatic and it is such a large chunk of glass I feel as if I'm carrying medium format around. I no longer hold the camera, I hold the lens, and my right hand merely operates the shutter release and film advance lever. The center of balance has clearly shifted to the lens.
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tedwhite
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Right. Took a second look. And I canceled my order for the square hood. Probably the camera and lens were shipped yesterday.
Back Alley: Good suggestion. the 75 ought do work well as a portrait lens (I think). My only other desire in a lens would be a 28 or 24. Three lenses, I believe, are enough for an RF camera. My rationale for getting the Bessa is based on small, light, easy to carry around, etc.
Any tips about camera usage? Advance film slowly? Tricks in film loading? That sort of thing.
TED
Back Alley: Good suggestion. the 75 ought do work well as a portrait lens (I think). My only other desire in a lens would be a 28 or 24. Three lenses, I believe, are enough for an RF camera. My rationale for getting the Bessa is based on small, light, easy to carry around, etc.
Any tips about camera usage? Advance film slowly? Tricks in film loading? That sort of thing.
TED
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nothing really, it loads standard etc.
i 'm a slow shooter, don't normally rip off fps or anything like that.
read the mainual and enjoy it.
maybe a caution here so you don't freak later...my first couple of rolls with the this set up was a bit of a disappointment, not really sharp shots. turns out the camera was so light i had to adjust to it and then my pics started to look sharper. now it's a no thought kind of thing.
joe
i 'm a slow shooter, don't normally rip off fps or anything like that.
read the mainual and enjoy it.
maybe a caution here so you don't freak later...my first couple of rolls with the this set up was a bit of a disappointment, not really sharp shots. turns out the camera was so light i had to adjust to it and then my pics started to look sharper. now it's a no thought kind of thing.
joe
