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Ken F.
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Thank you Stephen!
You wouldn't happen to know the EBL would you? I'm wondering how accurate the focus will be with f1:4/f1:5 lens attached?
Cheers,
kf
You wouldn't happen to know the EBL would you? I'm wondering how accurate the focus will be with f1:4/f1:5 lens attached?
Cheers,
kf
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
Thank you Stephen.
But you know that we'll all read up on the R4 and put in our pre-orders!
I fancy an R4A with a 21 or 25mm lens to complement my R3A with 40mm.
But you know that we'll all read up on the R4 and put in our pre-orders!
I fancy an R4A with a 21 or 25mm lens to complement my R3A with 40mm.
Sonnar2
Well-known
That's great news! I just bought a R3M and find me lured of another Bessa body. This man understands how to tempt people! They should add the 40mm frame as well, maybe a 28/50 and 25/40 combination! I know of no camera which has 35 and 40mm frame combined.
Is there any shading of the lens in the 21mm frame? (I know the 4/21mm is a tiny lens, it's obviously a different story with the Zeiss 2.8/21...)
Is there any shading of the lens in the 21mm frame? (I know the 4/21mm is a tiny lens, it's obviously a different story with the Zeiss 2.8/21...)
Diggin99
Established
cool
cool
I'll be saving for one!
Nancy
cool
I'll be saving for one!
Nancy
didotcicero
Z3Bro
Will there be a rangefinder coupled 25mm lens too? (Since the 25mm/4 Skopar Snapshot is discontinued)
jmilkins
Digited User
ohhh bad GAS and only 1 cure! R4m to complement my R3a, and to provide a manual feel, which is why I like the L.
Paul T.
Veteran
Stephen, PLEASE tell us what you know re the RF-coupled 25mm VC lens. Is it reasonably imminent? You mention on your site it would be bigger, does that mean it might be faster?
Please don't make me go out and get a Zeiss, now...
Please don't make me go out and get a Zeiss, now...
Benny Boy
Member
Why no 40 framelines?!!!!!!!!! If it has 35 and 50 framelines, obviously the 40 focal length can be also be used with this EBL. This seems downright stupid. How but a direct comment from you on this Mr. Gadny?
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
How many RF people frame that accurately? I'd be happy enough with 35mm framelines and guess a little less coverage for my 40mm lens.
But I don't like changing lenses so i'll keep the R3A for the 40mm lens and try and get an R4 for either a 25mm or 21mm lens.
I'm actually considering getting a 25/4 now while there's still a few around and storing it until the R4 is available. RF coupling (lack of) does not concern me as I'll guess distance and count on the depth of field.
But I don't like changing lenses so i'll keep the R3A for the 40mm lens and try and get an R4 for either a 25mm or 21mm lens.
I'm actually considering getting a 25/4 now while there's still a few around and storing it until the R4 is available. RF coupling (lack of) does not concern me as I'll guess distance and count on the depth of field.
More or less this is the voice of reason currently in control of my thoughts. I spent the weekend with my T and 21mm lens. I really don't need a combined RF/VF to use this lens effectively.
popstar
Well-known
I love the concept of the R4M/A. I don't know if it will be the next camera I buy, but I'll have to take a look at it. I'll be curious to see what the reviews of the actual production models are like next April!
K
Kyle
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Ken F. said:
Not mine! I'm interested in the R4a so I can have a camera for my 25/2.8 ZM. The ZI does a fine job when you use the entire viewfinder, but this would be even nicer. IMO, this is a specialty camera, and I don't think I will even use it with lenses longer than 35mm. The faster/longer lenses can go on my other cameras.
Also, for those wanting 40mm framelines, if you already have a 40mm lens, I'm sure its either the CV 40/1.4 or the Leica 40/2, right? If so, I think the R3A/M would be the best camera for either of those lenses, because of the 1:1 finder. I dunno, maybe I'm just rambling.
Benny Boy
Member
There is room for one more frameline, there being only 5 right now. Why not add the 40 frameline? The 50 and 28 ought to be paired and the 40 could be paired with the 25. This is basically a no cost change, it just needs to be implemented in the final design.
If it does not get implemented, then I will angrily and cynically presume that it is because Mr. K is trying to sell more bodies. It would be very nice to have one VC body for the VC 40 in combination with a wider counterpart.
If it does not get implemented, then I will angrily and cynically presume that it is because Mr. K is trying to sell more bodies. It would be very nice to have one VC body for the VC 40 in combination with a wider counterpart.
Ken F.
Established
Jon Claremont said:
Hi Jon,
I purchased a 25 f4 a couple of months ago for the very same reason. As Rover stated, the lack of RF coupling is actually a plus in a way.
I was also told by Stephen, that he imagined focusing a 50mm f1:5 wide open at close distance, would be pushing it to the limit! I agree with you, I mainly would be using it as a travel camera, and not very often under those circumstances.
I know I'm going to order one...
Cheers,
kf
Chris Lynch
Film Enough.
I'll be using mine with nothing longer than 50 for sure... and the 50 will probably be an I-61!!
i'm thinking ZM25 (maybe even 21?- naw i'll prob just get the CV21), Nokton35- or maybe "just" the Ultron.... and that'll be it.
R4A ftw.
i'm thinking ZM25 (maybe even 21?- naw i'll prob just get the CV21), Nokton35- or maybe "just" the Ultron.... and that'll be it.
R4A ftw.
Sonnar2
Well-known
Yes a 40mm frame added will add to success definitely. With the R3M I already have a 40mm frame but this is rather wide. It will be more comfortable at 0,52 than at 1,0 magnification. It will be more important on that camera than a 50mm frame!
cheers Frank
cheers Frank
Alan
Newbie
I'm saving up my cash for one, plus a 28/1.9. I just hope the price won't be much higher than the estimated one so I can get one as soon as it comes out.
Nachkebia
Well-known
One stupid question, if you compare it to 0.72 (zeiss ikon) viewfinder, approximately 28mm frame lines on R4 will be as 35mm on Zeiss ikon?
Didier
"Deed"
Benny Boy said:
I remember from Stephen Gandy's Photokina report that he and Tom Abrahamsson had suggested that the 50 framelines are replaced by the 40 (as it's a "wide" RF anyway), but Cosina has decided differently.
Placing the 40 framelines in addition to the 50 would mean that there are 3 framelines in one position (there are already 3 pairs for 3 positions). 3 framelines in one view might be too confusing, so the decision was 40 OR 50 - I can understand why Cosina has chosen the 50, as it makes the range of the usable focal lengths a bit larger, and 40 can be handled with the 35 lines.
Because the question is - do you need 2 framelines for 35 and 40? Anyway they're only approximately accurate like with all RF framelines. Personally, I use the 35mm framelines for the 40 Nokton on the Leica M6, which correspond perfectly to it's field of view (had modified the Nokton's mount for that). Works even better than with the 35mm lenses!
Didier
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