newfilm
Well-known
Hi guys,
Been reading suff of this forum and general googling around, it seems that Voigtlander is no longer making LTM mount lens? the "new-ish" ones that have very same name "Color Skopar/Ultron/Nokton" all have new look but only M mount.
I suppose LTM is really... truly dead end now? I have zorki/fed/canon-p/canon-7/leica-m2
also, any cheap-ish camera (maybe within canon-p quality and price range) that can take M-Mount other than Leica?
Been reading suff of this forum and general googling around, it seems that Voigtlander is no longer making LTM mount lens? the "new-ish" ones that have very same name "Color Skopar/Ultron/Nokton" all have new look but only M mount.
I suppose LTM is really... truly dead end now? I have zorki/fed/canon-p/canon-7/leica-m2
also, any cheap-ish camera (maybe within canon-p quality and price range) that can take M-Mount other than Leica?
nukecoke
⚛Yashica
IMO, There are no cheap-ish M-mount camera.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
They haven't made a LTM mount camera for even longer. I don't think they would have made LTM lenses if it had not been for their cameras. Even if the latter may have been little more than a pretext for selling LTM lenses with M adapter attached, the brief LTM revival ended when they took up M mount bodies and lenses.
Vobluda
Well-known
LTM died in 1954 with Leica M3 introduction.
Hi guys,
Been reading suff of this forum and general googling around, it seems that Voigtlander is no longer making LTM mount lens? the "new-ish" ones that have very same name "Color Skopar/Ultron/Nokton" all have new look but only M mount.
I suppose LTM is really... truly dead end now? I have zorki/fed/canon-p/canon-7/leica-m2
also, any cheap-ish camera (maybe within canon-p quality and price range) that can take M-Mount other than Leica?
nukecoke
⚛Yashica
I wouldn't say LTM died on that year. What died on that year was the concept of a pocket-able 35mm camera, namely any Barnack style camera (with collapsible lenses). It was killed by Leica itself.
Despite camera size growing, Canon kept making decent LTM bodies and lenses (until 1960s) even after they knew that they couldn't beat Leica M3.
davidnewtonguitars
Family Snaps
It depends on the definition of "died".
I don't think one camera/lens or an entire system is "dead" until they are no longer working, either from disrepair or lack of media.
I am sure many folks thought bellows cameras were dead a while back too.
seakayaker1
Well-known
They may have stopped making based on demand. I have purchased a Voigtlander 28/1.9, 50/1.5, and 75/2.5 LTM lens and use them with my film and digital M cameras and enjoy the results. I also have 4 Leitz LTM lens, from the 1950's that see occasional use.
The LTM lines may have been discontinued but are far from dead at this point in time.
The LTM lines may have been discontinued but are far from dead at this point in time.
zuiko85
Veteran
If I were king of a camera making company then all my RF lenses would be LTM because they are 'universal fit' they will work on both LTM bodies and with a (high quality) adapter will work fine on M mount cameras. If I made a RF body then it would be M mount only, for the same reason, they can take both M mount and LTM lenses.
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.
Ong
Well-known
From memory, the CV factory works with production batches on what has the demand (that's why you often see a drought of a certain lens for a period of time before it comes back into stock)
So I suppose if the head bartender or other dealers tell them there is a demand for specific LTM lenses, they could (in theory) do a short production run for that lens.
So I suppose if the head bartender or other dealers tell them there is a demand for specific LTM lenses, they could (in theory) do a short production run for that lens.
Hi guys,
Been reading suff of this forum and general googling around, it seems that Voigtlander is no longer making LTM mount lens? the "new-ish" ones that have very same name "Color Skopar/Ultron/Nokton" all have new look but only M mount.
I suppose LTM is really... truly dead end now? I have zorki/fed/canon-p/canon-7/leica-m2
The Voigtlander LTM lenses are discontinued now - until some special issue comes along
I still have in stock these new LTM lenses - until I sell out
12/5.6
15/4.5
21/4
35/1.7 - used
50/1.5
50/2
50/3.5
75/2.5
additionally new from Lomography
the 20/5.6 Russar & 50/1.5 Jupiter 3 Plus LTM lenses
Stephen
davidnewtonguitars
Family Snaps
That 75/2.5 is awesome.
newfilm
Well-known
oh wow, I did not know Jupiter-3 has new production... I must have been living under the rock... hhmm...
lawrence
Veteran
Agreed. Compact, well made and gives excellent results wide open. The other CV LTMs I particularly like are 50/2.5, 28/3.5, 28/1.9 and 12/5.6.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
I would not bet on that. These "new" Soviet lenses might be made from old stock - past production numbers were huge, and in the late Soviet to early post-Soviet era many semi-finished products ended up shelved somewhere as parts were still produced according to plan while the demand for the finished product (which already had to sell under free market conditions) had vanished.
There are no current production LTM bodies...
dr owl
John Owlett, Southampton, UK
In which a long-term lurker emerges from the shadows to see whether there are any new Voigtlander LTM lenses left which can be bought from the UK.
Hello everyone,
Please may I bump this year-old thread to ask a closely related question?
I have just ordered a 1948 Leica IIIc with a contemporary Summitar; and as well as the Summitar I shall want to use the camera with a modern, fully multicoated lens. So I e-mailed the Head Bartender to see whether he had any new Voigtlander LTM lenses left.
He replied promptly and apologetically.
Yes, he still has some LTM lenses, including the 50mm f/3.5 nickel Heliar that was my first choice. And yes, it will work great with my other Leica rangefinders. And no, he ships Voigtlander products only to the US.
My first thought was: meanie.
My second thought was: understandable. One must never attribute to malice something that is adequately explained by the policies of his couriers. And no businessman is ever completely happy turning down a sale.
My third thought was: I need to ask whether anybody knows of a dealer who still has Voigtlander LTM lenses, and who can ship to the UK.
Anyone?
John Owlett
Southampton, UK
Leica M6 & M240, Nikon F3, Rolleiflex 2.8GX ... and soon Leica IIIc.
Hello everyone,
Please may I bump this year-old thread to ask a closely related question?
I have just ordered a 1948 Leica IIIc with a contemporary Summitar; and as well as the Summitar I shall want to use the camera with a modern, fully multicoated lens. So I e-mailed the Head Bartender to see whether he had any new Voigtlander LTM lenses left.
He replied promptly and apologetically.
Yes, he still has some LTM lenses, including the 50mm f/3.5 nickel Heliar that was my first choice. And yes, it will work great with my other Leica rangefinders. And no, he ships Voigtlander products only to the US.
My first thought was: meanie.
My second thought was: understandable. One must never attribute to malice something that is adequately explained by the policies of his couriers. And no businessman is ever completely happy turning down a sale.
My third thought was: I need to ask whether anybody knows of a dealer who still has Voigtlander LTM lenses, and who can ship to the UK.
Anyone?
John Owlett
Southampton, UK
Leica M6 & M240, Nikon F3, Rolleiflex 2.8GX ... and soon Leica IIIc.
wintoid
Back to film
ChrisLivsey
Veteran
MW Classic mentioned above regularly obtains NOS CV from other countries and will look out for particular lenses by request, that will be your best bet I suspect.
Robert White are the UK distributor, trading as Flaghead for that purpose: Flaghead Photographic Limited, t/a Robert White Unit 6 16 Alder Hills, Poole, Dorset BH 12 4AR www.flaghead.co.uk, www.robertwhite.co.uk
They may be able to point you to dealers they supply in the UK who hold stock.
The Head Bartender will be restricted from "stepping on the toes" of the UK distributor, and likewise UK to USA, as part of their agreement with CV as distributors, this is usual business practice. You may find dealers abroad with stock who are not distributors who may not be restricted by such an agreement but I do not know that as fact.
If he has stock and RW do not it may be possible to transfer that stock to Robert White to sell to you, with CV agreement, and that may be worth exploring.
dr owl
John Owlett, Southampton, UK
Thank you. Very helpful.
MW Classic is new to me (though Essex Road, Canonbury, is just round the corner from my daughter's apartment) and looks as though it will be a good option. I shall contact them.
Do you know approximately how recent the advertised 1.7/35 Ultron is? I have a world-class collection of Nikon geekery, and quite a lot of Leica and Rolleiflex data, but Voigtlander is relatively new to me.
Robert White Photographic is not remotely new to me. It's only about 30 minutes drive away and it's where I used to buy my Rolleiflex kit as well as my Gitzo/Arca-Swiss tripod. And my Fogg bagg. I checked their website carefully a week or so ago; there was no sign of anything LTM in their Voigtlander lists, though I didn't think to give them a call. Perhaps I should.
My abiding memory of Robert is from when I went to buy the 2.8GX. He heard I was a Nikon geek whose other camera was a Rolleiflex, so he came over with a Leica M6 for me to fondle, assuring me that it was something I would like. At the time, it seemed a bit like a tambourine man offering one of his customers the latest high.
I resisted his temptation for several years.
Later,
John
Leica IIIc, M6 & M240, Nikon F3, and Rolleiflex 2.8GX.
MW Classic is new to me (though Essex Road, Canonbury, is just round the corner from my daughter's apartment) and looks as though it will be a good option. I shall contact them.
Do you know approximately how recent the advertised 1.7/35 Ultron is? I have a world-class collection of Nikon geekery, and quite a lot of Leica and Rolleiflex data, but Voigtlander is relatively new to me.
Robert White Photographic is not remotely new to me. It's only about 30 minutes drive away and it's where I used to buy my Rolleiflex kit as well as my Gitzo/Arca-Swiss tripod. And my Fogg bagg. I checked their website carefully a week or so ago; there was no sign of anything LTM in their Voigtlander lists, though I didn't think to give them a call. Perhaps I should.
My abiding memory of Robert is from when I went to buy the 2.8GX. He heard I was a Nikon geek whose other camera was a Rolleiflex, so he came over with a Leica M6 for me to fondle, assuring me that it was something I would like. At the time, it seemed a bit like a tambourine man offering one of his customers the latest high.
I resisted his temptation for several years.
Later,
John
Leica IIIc, M6 & M240, Nikon F3, and Rolleiflex 2.8GX.
ChrisLivsey
Veteran
Not recent
Certainly pre 2010 and did have a relatively poor reputation for build quality at that time, since then much improved but still some reports of the helicals going squeaky. I had a 35mm f2 "Zeiss" (meaning Zeiss name but CV built) did that and was repaired by Zeiss Germany that came back a much sharper lens. The best most recent LTM glass was released around 2000 by Leica for Japanese market but of course now available anywhere S/H. They did a Summicron 50mm (rigid) Summilux 50mm and a Summicron 35mm Asph all now sought after and around 1,500 at least but they do come up and look lovely. And of course accept an M adapter!!