Voigtlander Nokton 50mm F1 ASPH

[zuiko85]

Well, What a surprise, another super speed super heavy super large lens. Seems like the compact RF lens is long dead, unless it is some really slow 28mm.
All the while where are the tiny lightweight f2 optics? Oh….right, optics now need to be optimized for digital sensors. So, now even most ‘moderate’ speed lenses are, in my opinion, too large.

 

[CameraQuest]

Yeah, I don't see mention of floating elements on Cosina's product info or announcement pages. It is curious that they don't mention it. I saw mention of it on the dc.watch.impress article and didn't look into it any further than that.

I can confirm the new Voigtlander 50/1 has floating elements.

Stephen

 

[CameraQuest]

Well, What a surprise, another super speed super heavy super large lens. Seems like the compact RF lens is long dead, unless it is some really slow 28mm.
All the while where are the tiny lightweight f2 optics? Oh….right, optics now need to be optimized for digital sensors. So, now even most ‘moderate’ speed lenses are, in my opinion, too large.

take a good look at the recent small lightweight 28/2 and 35/2 M Voigtlanders,
not to mention the long in production 35/1.4 and 35/2.5.

all that stuff about the compact RF being long dead .... no way in Voigtlander

 

[WJJ3]

I can confirm the new 50/1 has floating elements.

Stephen

Thanks Stephen, this looks like a killer lens. Cosina are really keeping the dream alive.

 

[nickthetasmaniac]

Well, What a surprise, another super speed super heavy super large lens. Seems like the compact RF lens is long dead, unless it is some really slow 28mm.
All the while where are the tiny lightweight f2 optics? Oh….right, optics now need to be optimized for digital sensors. So, now even most ‘moderate’ speed lenses are, in my opinion, too large.

I’m going to assume you haven’t been paying attention to CV’s recent releases? The 21/f3.5, 28/f2, 35/f2, 35/f1.4 II, 50/1.5 II and 90/f2.8 are are basically the definition of the ‘compact RF lens’...

 

[kshapero]

Do you now prefer the CV 50/1.0 or the CV Heliar 50/1.5? Why?

I want, want, want BOTH!!!

 

[Sonnar Brian]

The Voigtlander 50/1.5 Nokton v2 is about the same size as a 5cm F1.5 Sonnar in LTM.

Nokton 50/1.5 M v2 by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

It is bigger than a 40/2 Summicron. The Nokton on the CL fits into the pouch case, as does the Canon 50/1.5.

Nokton 50/1.5 M v2 by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

 

[zuiko85]

I’m going to assume you haven’t been paying attention to CV’s recent releases? The 21/f3.5, 28/f2, 35/f2, 35/f1.4 II, 50/1.5 II and 90/f2.8 are are basically the definition of the ‘compact RF lens’...

Yep, been paying attention, but I’m a grouch. Actually owned, over a decade ago a M4-2 and the CV 35 f2.5 PII and the tiny CV 21 f4 M mount. And, they were tiny and perfect. However…..seems these days all the attention is on ‘Bokeh Monsters’ and bragging rights for the fastest of the fast. And, although not a M shooter anymore (the M4-2 reminded me how much I really like TTL viewing and focusing) still love compact ILC cameras, and with that compact lenses.
Not a surprise really, my favorite SLR back in the day, early to mid 70’s, was a Olympus Pen F and a few of its lenses.
Come to that, still have a couple of Pen F half frame bodies and several Pen Zuikos which do double duty on a EM10.
Not completely against big and fast….when TTArtisan came out with that 50 f1.2 in MFT mount, well couldn’t resist the $98 tag. At f1.2 it positively glows!

 

[raid]

I'm not going for the Heliar 50/1.5 as I have the 50/1.5 Nokton V2 for my compact modern lens.

I've been shooting with the 50/1.2 Nokton. It is a superb lens. Sharp, fast, and well balanced. Not any bigger than my classic Nikon F-Mount 50/1.4's.

I like the 50/1.1 Nokton. I adjusted the RF cam using 1 later of copper tape to suit my shooting. On the M Monochrom- it's especially good. I learned to use a UV filter with it on the M9 to cut purple fringing caused by the M9 being overly sensitive to UV light.

But- this new lens is a 50/1.0.

You made a good point. The new CV lens is a 50/1.0. It costs less to buy than a Leica Noctilux 50/1.0. You will save enough money to buy a good used car.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

Well, What a surprise, another super speed super heavy super large lens. Seems like the compact RF lens is long dead, unless it is some really slow 28mm.
All the while where are the tiny lightweight f2 optics? Oh….right, optics now need to be optimized for digital sensors. So, now even most ‘moderate’ speed lenses are, in my opinion, too large.

CV VM 35/2 is tiny lens. And their 28/2 is not large either. And they are new, for digital lenses.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

35/f1.4 II

It is optimized for digital as retro. 🙂 I have it.

 

[Archiver]

I would expect that an F1.0 lens is going to have some focus shift by design. It will not be much, but without it: the DOF at F1.0 would be so razor thin that the lens would not be practical in use unless you did nothing but take pictures of rulers or fence posts. I would be more concerned about vignetting at F1.0. The rear group extends into the mount.

Depending on how well it performs on mirrorless cameras, it might be a good alternative for those wanting a Canon dream lens experience without the price and conversion. Zack Snyder shot the entire Army of the Dead movie with the Canon 50mm and 35mm RF lenses, rehoused for cine use, and wide open. Not a very versatile look, but one that some will want to replicate. The minimum focus distance of 90cm bothers me, though. The more I shoot with SLR lenses, the more I prefer closer focusing distances. It's one reason why I enjoy the Voigtlander m43 lenses: they have very short MFD's, especially the 25mm f0.95. Even the Olympus f1.2 Pro primes have very short MFD's, but I suspect this is a feature of m43 lenses in general. Wider focal lengths tend to be able to focus closer, so it makes sense that a 25mm (m43) will focus closer than a 50mm (full frame).

 

[aizan]

This will be great in Sony E-mount. Not sure why the M-mount version usually comes out first.

 

[oldwino]

This will be great in Sony E-mount. Not sure why the M-mount version usually comes out first.

Tradition.

 

[Evergreen States]

Yep, been paying attention, but I’m a grouch. Actually owned, over a decade ago a M4-2 and the CV 35 f2.5 PII and the tiny CV 21 f4 M mount. And, they were tiny and perfect. However…..seems these days all the attention is on ‘Bokeh Monsters’ and bragging rights for the fastest of the fast. And, although not a M shooter anymore (the M4-2 reminded me how much I really like TTL viewing and focusing) still love compact ILC cameras, and with that compact lenses.
Not a surprise really, my favorite SLR back in the day, early to mid 70’s, was a Olympus Pen F and a few of its lenses.
Come to that, still have a couple of Pen F half frame bodies and several Pen Zuikos which do double duty on a EM10.
Not completely against big and fast….when TTArtisan came out with that 50 f1.2 in MFT mount, well couldn’t resist the $98 tag. At f1.2 it positively glows!

This is deeply weird to me. You're complaining about products you don't like and will never use even though products you do like and will never use are still in production. You're complaining about a trend that is, factually and by your own admission, not coming at the expense of the trend you like.

 

[Bille]

Depending on how well it performs on mirrorless cameras, it might be a good alternative for those wanting a Canon dream lens experience without the price and conversion.

You assume the new Voigtlander f1 asph will render like a 1960s pre-computer-era Canon lens? Believe it when I see it.

 

[CameraQuest]

You assume the new Voigtlander f1 asph will render like a 1960s pre-computer-era Canon lens? Believe it when I see it.

Good Point. I'm betting it will render much like the current Leica 50mm F0.95

we will see ....

 

[Archiver]

You assume the new Voigtlander f1 asph will render like a 1960s pre-computer-era Canon lens? Believe it when I see it.

Good pick up, although haven't some recent Voigtlander and Leica lenses been made with vintage rendering?

 

[Archiver]

Good Point. I'm betting it will render much like the current Leica 50mm F0.95

we will see ....

If the new Voigtlander renders like the current Noctilux, it will be like Christmas has come the day you put it on the camera.

 

[CameraQuest]

Good pick up, although haven't some recent Voigtlander and Leica lenses been made with vintage rendering?

Yes, like the 50mm Heliar Classic among others. However the 50/1 is a very modern design