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Tim
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It's called LinhofLust, and unfortunately, I think I've got it very very badly. :bang:
WARNING: There IS something worse than Leicalust...
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Kris
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So Tim, is it the Technika or Technorama you're lusting? Either way, I wouldn't want to be in your shoes.
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Tim
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Ahhhhhhhhhh Kris......it's a long sad story........ 🙁
I've always been fascinated by the whole Large Format / Movements thing. But never wanted the hassle of dicking around with cut film sheets, double darks etc etc etc.
Recently, an offer came up that was just too good to refuse. I got offered a baby Linhof Tech IV, with ground glass back, 6x7 Super Rollex back, 105mm and 180 mm lenses, lens hood, and all accessories, all in a Linhof case, for a fairly stupidly small sum. Thought I, "here's a chance to cheaply explore movements & stuff". Bad, bad, bad, bad move.
Now I am looking at Linhof Tech V's and Masters, and drooling over the Linhof website.
And you thought Leica's were expensive!!!!!!!
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I've always been fascinated by the whole Large Format / Movements thing. But never wanted the hassle of dicking around with cut film sheets, double darks etc etc etc.
Recently, an offer came up that was just too good to refuse. I got offered a baby Linhof Tech IV, with ground glass back, 6x7 Super Rollex back, 105mm and 180 mm lenses, lens hood, and all accessories, all in a Linhof case, for a fairly stupidly small sum. Thought I, "here's a chance to cheaply explore movements & stuff". Bad, bad, bad, bad move.
Now I am looking at Linhof Tech V's and Masters, and drooling over the Linhof website.
And you thought Leica's were expensive!!!!!!!
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RObert Budding
D'oh!
Take a look at a Shen Hao. Great camera for $600 new.
Robert
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Tim
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I've seen one. Have to admit, not impressed. But that's just me.........
Hasselblad lust is pretty bad too. With large format you can buy many different brands and ages of lenses, some more affordable than others. With Hasselblad you are stuck with their own lenses, $1000 each or so. 🙁
RObert Budding
D'oh!
Tim - What exactlly are you looking for in a LF camera? To me, the Shen Hao is an excellent value - nice range of movements and very good build quality (a couple of friends of mine own them). It's probably what I will buy for myself in the coming year.
You should buy the Linhof, if that's what you really want. But for me, I would rather put money in lenses, which do affect the image, and not in the box.
Robert
You should buy the Linhof, if that's what you really want. But for me, I would rather put money in lenses, which do affect the image, and not in the box.
Robert
sixb
Member
Hey Tim
Take a look at the Wista cameras. As a former Linhof owner and someone notoriously anal about craftsmanship, I have always been impressed with the build quality of their aluminum models. The 45vx, 45sp and 45rx are top notch IMHO-
best,
Chris
Take a look at the Wista cameras. As a former Linhof owner and someone notoriously anal about craftsmanship, I have always been impressed with the build quality of their aluminum models. The 45vx, 45sp and 45rx are top notch IMHO-
best,
Chris
Graybeard
Longtime IIIf User
RObert Budding said:
Quite a difference with large format, as the box may be more important than the glass.
A large format camera does quite a bit more than just hold the film. The lensboard and camera back (film plane) are designed to have a great variety of movements with respect to each other for complete perspective and image control.
The extent of the movements possible, the ease with which the movements can be accomplished, and the rigidity of the camra once movements have been made, distinguish one large format camera from another.
The Linhof is superb in the ease of use of its controls and the rigidity of the all-metal camera once the movement controls are locked. My Linhof (a Technika V) also has a coupled rangefinder so it can be used as a hand-held rangefinder camera as well as on a tripod with focusing and composition on the groundglass.
The Technika V produces a 4x5 negative. One need be making pretty huge enlargements before lens resolution becomes an issue.
RObert Budding
D'oh!
Yes, Graybeard, I realize that the camera is important for controling movements. But once you have adaquate movements and control, and reasonable build quality then, for me, I've spent enough on the camera. of course, if I weren't saving to send two kids to college . . .
So, for me, the Shen Hao seems like quite a bargain (if you don't want to hand hold).
Robert
So, for me, the Shen Hao seems like quite a bargain (if you don't want to hand hold).
Robert
eric
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Yep, Hassy lust is bad bad bad.rover said:
Extension tubes easily over $100 bucks
Prism easily over $100 bucks
Lenses? Forget it. YOu can get a nice Bessa with 3 lenses for the price of a used lens 🙁
But hey, we all have our vices. I think I need a lift for my truck so perhaps next year, I need to get rid of some junk.
ywenz
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How 'bout canon DSLR-lust? More lenses to get than you can shake a stick at. And those L-series!? You can kiss your mortage good bye!
RObert Budding
D'oh!
You are right about DSLR lust. I have a relative who dropped $5,000 on his DSLR system. And that was with just one Digital rebel body!
Robert
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Little Prince
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How about an SL66? It might be a compromise of some sort for movements. But I don't know anything about that.
What is this Shen Hao? I must go check it out.
What is this Shen Hao? I must go check it out.
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former member
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Collecting Nikon RF's runs more than most Leica's, unless you want the special "Fru-Fru" Leica's. At least those are nicer than the "25th Anniversary Nikon F2" complete with cheesy plastic plate glued on by EPOI.
I have got to use my Big Format camera, a Speed Graphic with Kalart Finder.
Anyone else have a Schneider 135mm F3.5 Xenotar?
I have got to use my Big Format camera, a Speed Graphic with Kalart Finder.
Anyone else have a Schneider 135mm F3.5 Xenotar?
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Kris
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Tim, have you looked at Sinar rail camera? Either F or P model, I'm not familiar with them at all. Handled one in the shop once and it was more impressive than a Technika V. Maybe it's just me.
Yes Ralph you're darn right! As a matter of fact, I've got one now. Lusting for a Distagon 40mm! :bang:
I have wanted a 50mm Distagon for a while now Kris. The good thing is that your choices are limited in the number of lenses available, On 80, one 50 one 150 are enough (or whatever combo you choose).
sf
Veteran
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I know - acutely. I went through a 617 and a Technica phase before giving up and buying a Crown Graphic and a Fujinon 75mm SWD.
How about Alpalust though. Leica is to Voigtlander as Alpa is to Linhof. My opinion.
Of course, there is the Linhof Technorama 617s III - which is nauseatingly expensive and awesome. I would call Alpas extraterrestrial - exotic to the point of being excessive - like the MacLaren F1 (car for 1.5 million USD or so), the Linhof Technorama 617sIII is more like a Mercedes SL600. It is more within the reach of mere mortals, but still obscenely exotic. I've never even seen the Linhof in person. They are like that. . . so elite and special that they don't need shelfspace, buyers and cameras are paired by destiny at their mutual births.
And the Alpa, well, it is the Unicorn. Mythical creature of cameraland. It exists only so far as images can prove. No Alpas were ever actually "produced" in human terms. They "became" from the collective wills of all camera lovers on the planet, and exist as the great dangling carrot or the stars in the sky, always urging us to go further, try harder. We have pictures of unicorns, don't we?
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I know - acutely. I went through a 617 and a Technica phase before giving up and buying a Crown Graphic and a Fujinon 75mm SWD.
How about Alpalust though. Leica is to Voigtlander as Alpa is to Linhof. My opinion.
Of course, there is the Linhof Technorama 617s III - which is nauseatingly expensive and awesome. I would call Alpas extraterrestrial - exotic to the point of being excessive - like the MacLaren F1 (car for 1.5 million USD or so), the Linhof Technorama 617sIII is more like a Mercedes SL600. It is more within the reach of mere mortals, but still obscenely exotic. I've never even seen the Linhof in person. They are like that. . . so elite and special that they don't need shelfspace, buyers and cameras are paired by destiny at their mutual births.
And the Alpa, well, it is the Unicorn. Mythical creature of cameraland. It exists only so far as images can prove. No Alpas were ever actually "produced" in human terms. They "became" from the collective wills of all camera lovers on the planet, and exist as the great dangling carrot or the stars in the sky, always urging us to go further, try harder. We have pictures of unicorns, don't we?
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Photar
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Well, if you like the Linhofs, stay with Linhof. I also use a Linhof in addition to Leica M. In my case it's a very nice Studienkamera 70 with a 6x7 Super Rollex and a Symmar-S 5.6/100mm. It's a lot of fun to use this camera and for me as an amateur that's what counts.
macymills@mac.c
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Tim,
I know exactly how you feel. Given my recent splurge on my Nikon RF, I will be postponing my Linhof purchase until early next year. When you want a Linhof, nothing else seems to compare, so you might as well just succomb to it! My dilemma is whether to get the Linhof Master Classic or the Linhof Master 2000! (there is a "mint" Master 2000 on e*ay right now selling for just a little over $3000)
I know exactly how you feel. Given my recent splurge on my Nikon RF, I will be postponing my Linhof purchase until early next year. When you want a Linhof, nothing else seems to compare, so you might as well just succomb to it! My dilemma is whether to get the Linhof Master Classic or the Linhof Master 2000! (there is a "mint" Master 2000 on e*ay right now selling for just a little over $3000)
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