Was Kodak No.1 Series III also available with a Compur shutter ?

[hanskerensky]

Well, i know it's not a rangefinder but thought this would be an appropriate place to put my question because so many folder lovers visit this part of the forum.

My brother visited me today and surprised me by saying that he had bought himself a folder as souvenir during his recent holiday in Bavaria, Germany.

Must say that his folder still looks very good for its age of 80 years.

It's the Kodak type No.1 Series III which also can be loaded with Autographic Rollfilm. Film type is 120 Rollfilm. Framesize will be 6x9 (i guess). The lens is a Kodak Anastigmat 112mm 1:5.6

Did of course study my McKeowns and the Internet but alas didn't find any information about this type being fitted with a rim-set Compur (there was more then enough information about the "regular" No.1 Series III).

Just wondering if this could be a modification with parts from another Kodak model ?

The front of the camera can be seen here :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29504544@N08/4960839191/

 

[ZeissFan]

This camera has a dial-set Compur. The rim-set Compur has the speeds around the rim of the shutter housing.

My book lists only a Diomatic shutter, although in one of two photos of the camera, the one photo clearly shows a dial-set shutter that appears to be different from the simpler Diomatic shutter.

I can find no evidence that Kodak used a German-made Compur shutter with its non-Nagel cameras, although I did find a number of cameras that used a Bausch & Lomb Compur shutter.

This shutter is seen on many German cameras from that era, and it's very possible that the owner had the shutter replaced with this Compur, which offered more flexibility. Or it could be original (although I'm inclined to believe it isn't.)

If you look inside the camera at the shutter retaining ring, you sometimes can tell if the ring has been removed. Of course, that could have been removed to allow for the camera to be serviced.

However, it's probably one of those things that you'll never know. One thing to do: Find a date for the shutter and see if it matches the years of production for this camera (1926-1931). I would think that it probably does.

 

[hanskerensky]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your answer. As always spot-on !

You are of course right about the Compur it's dial-set indeed.

Well i also suspect that the Kodak got a different shutter but, unusually, kept the Kodak Anastigmat lens.

See this folder again next Wednesday and shall have a closer look at it and also compare the Compur serialnumber with a list. The shutter indeed does look as coming from this era.

Regards,

Hans

 

[hanskerensky]

Well, i saw the Kodak again today and made some extra photos. The Compur Serial Number is low, it's nr.11443. Alas couldn't find a list which shows such a low number. The list i saw started with number 214000.

The Kodak Anastigmat 112mm 1:5,6 has also a low serial number : No 1825
It seems hard to find information about the 112mm with just this aperture size.

The extra photos are collected in a set on Flickr here :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29504544@N08/sets/72157624778997745/

Any more information is appreciated.

Regards,

Hans