We are doomed

Nah, LCDs, Plasa screens aren't event up to resolution ?pin size) of CRTs yet. People will demand the new high quality images?? Not if looking at the photos in my local paper are anything to go by. If people shout loud enough, and long enough others will believe you. yours, fed up with digital hype.
 
It looks as though he boiled up a few of Bill Gates keynote-talks from five or ten years ago, and is hoping no-one will notice. Paper is a lot more robust than some large electrical appliance, as well as being more convenient when sitting in your garden with granny and also economically much more practical.

So, an article for debate, but I doubt it will become reality any time soon (although I'll cross my fingers anyway).
 
Paper is Dead? Is this the fabled "Paperless office" of mid 90's fame? And look how well that turned out.

True silver-gelatin fine art prints will outlast any electronic media.
 
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I left the smiley off.:)

The B&W shots would look good as hard copy. :)

Still, his essay does raise the issue of the expectations of viewers - we now accept low fi audio as mp3 files.

yours
FPJ
 
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Reminds me of all the hifalutin talk about TV when I was a toddler. Now I next to never watch. Also reminds me of those Dogawful digital picture frames. "Embrace the temporary" is a credo that may ultimately consume itself.

FPjohn said:
Still his essay does raise the issue of the expectations of viewers - we now accept low fi audio as mp3 files.
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Word. But since I spent too much time ragging about that in another thread, I'll be good and leave it at this.


- Barrett
 
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projectbluebird said:
Paper is Dead? Is this the fabled "Paperless office" of mid 90's fame? And look how well that turned out.

True silver-gelatin fine art prints will outlast any electronic media.
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True enough, although the first time I heard the death of paper predicted was at an exhibit at the 1964 World's Fair in New York. One of the computer compnaies was predicting that computers would eliminate the use of paper. Instead, they seem to have become more effeceint prducers of paper.

I'm betting digital cameras end up the same. We'll shoot way more pictures, and print a smaller numnber of them, but paper isn't going anywhere in my lifetime.
 
His argument isn't helped by the horrendous legibility of his dark green & white type on black. :D

Seriously, paper has been around for many centuries, I'm sure it will continue to exist for another few for certain applications. Maybe not phone books, but photographs? I believe so.

And I doubt there will be a digital replacement for this kind of paper:

toiletpaper.jpg


I show prints when I show my work, and both email and analog mail images to family & friends. I'm finally working on a website.

There's a joke to be made about wiping one's a$s with a plasma display in here somewhere. :angel: but I'll let you paint that picture. :D

http://ipst.gatech.edu/amp/collection/museum_invention_paper.htm
 
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1) Do you snail mail prints to your friends and family, or do you send digital images?​
The only images I give to people are ones that I've printed. Mostly Traditional prints, but a few digitally printed (from scanned negatives)
2) When a friend drops by, do you show your work on a computer, or as prints?​
Yes. Depends on how far along on a particular project I am.
3) Do you have prints of your family in your wallet, or on your cell phone?​
Neither. No pictures in my wallet, and the only photos on my cell phone are of my cats.
4) Do you have a web site with photos, or do you carry a portfolio to jobs?
etc...​
I actually have two portfolios, one large, one small. And no website, though I've designed a half dozen or so.

With all of that however, I have to admit that these days I rarely display anything anymore, digitally or on paper. :eek:
 
kram said:
Nah, LCDs, Plasa screens aren't event up to resolution ?pin size) of CRTs yet. People will demand the new high quality images?? Not if looking at the photos in my local paper are anything to go by. If people shout loud enough, and long enough others will believe you. yours, fed up with digital hype.
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I'm not entirely disagreeing with you, but....

I visit a site (shorpy.com) that features lots of vintage (1910-1930) images. Many are by FSA photographers. The JPGs on my screen often are quite beautiful. I was disappointed, however, to find those same images in their respective books, where they are dull, flat, soft...emotionless.

I don't think anyone's making an argument that a well-crafted silver print is going to be replaced by a screen in the near future. But, most people are not looking at well-crafted silver prints in their daily lives. Screens, of some sort, WILL certainly replace a lot of the paper we now take for granted.

And, it will have little to do with the merits of the devices versus paper. The tech companies don't sell paper. They will engineer a market to make money with the instruments they do sell. And, people will buy those instruments.
 
I was just sitting here thinking how I would love to buy art, but just can't imagine having to bother with a large, bulky print that has to be framed and then take up room on my wall. I mean, come on - covering up wall space with printed art ? My house isn't some sort of museum. And why own sculpture when you can own a rendered 3D image from a cad program. I could even set the display to rotate the image, to really get that 3D sense, but NO dusting ! I love the future.
 
"Minolta Hi-Matic E - Minolta Hi-Matic 9 - Yashica Lynx 14 - Samoca 35 LE - Ricoh Auto Half E - Balda Baldafix - Canon Elan 7N"

You....love....the....future????? ROTFLMAO


(Sorry, couldn't resist :)
 
It is true that in family photography there are a lot less printed images. But the prediction about fine art is way off. I don't believe this could happen very soon, or ever. Art relies always on materiality, not on bits of information, binary rows like.
And even with ordinary people, things will change after a lot of people will lose their memories after a computer crash or virus that destroy all the images. Not to mention the short life of a optical disk, that very few people are aware. In 5 or so years after this digital consumer boom, we will heard a lot of people crying about losing their photographs. It happened to me to not be able to recover photos from an old DVD, and most of the people don't have my insight on this.
Did anyone saw that documentary film with Katrina aftermath, when thousands of people was searching their photos (printed only!!!) all around N.O.? What do you think that happened with their digital images, when the flood came?
 
Long time photographers and artists lost their life work in Katrina. It was not on CD or DVD's. It was negatives and prints and canvasses. There is no absolutely archival medium. Life, art, everything is transitory. We can lock it away to keep it safe, but then it loses its real value as art.
 
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