shadesofgris
Member
I was kind of expecting Fuji to make an SLR looking camera with the success of the Olympus OMD.
I did a drawing of what I'd like the digital ST would look like (or most digital SLRs actually...) over at Fuji X Forum. I still prefer the form factor of a boxy rangefinder, but if Fuji can make something like a late 70's/early 80's film SLR in size and shape that would be pretty cool.
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I did a drawing of what I'd like the digital ST would look like (or most digital SLRs actually...) over at Fuji X Forum. I still prefer the form factor of a boxy rangefinder, but if Fuji can make something like a late 70's/early 80's film SLR in size and shape that would be pretty cool.
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noimmunity
scratch my niche
No OVF. No organic sensor. EVF in the middle of the body for an SLR form-factor.
From my perspective, this is not such great news. But I hope it makes Fuji more viable.
I think that fellow was right, the XP2 is possibly not ever coming out, or is at least being delayed until there is major new innovation (organic sensor?).
From my perspective, this is not such great news. But I hope it makes Fuji more viable.
I think that fellow was right, the XP2 is possibly not ever coming out, or is at least being delayed until there is major new innovation (organic sensor?).
btgc
Veteran
Everyone want to remake their classics - Oly did, Nikon did so why not Fuji. What matters is they have to invent something great not to loose customers dropping their digicams and switching to phones. One direction is to make less models but make them more sophisticated, more expensive. And sometimes they try to make them nostalgic to catch phone users who used that classic cameras when they were younger.
nongfuspring
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I like the weather sealing, but I can't see any advantage in a central EVF hump, it would just make it an awkward X-E2. The central hump was what put me off the OMD, the fake pentaprisim is just so conceited.
It's so depressing with all these me too retro designs, and not just cameras either. What I love about camera design in the 80s and 90s is that designers designed for the future and totally rethought what cameras could be, both in form and function. Cameras now are amazing internally, but seriously quagmired in useless nostalgia.
It's so depressing with all these me too retro designs, and not just cameras either. What I love about camera design in the 80s and 90s is that designers designed for the future and totally rethought what cameras could be, both in form and function. Cameras now are amazing internally, but seriously quagmired in useless nostalgia.
P. Lynn Miller
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Nikon did it better than anyone else so far... full-frame with a gorgeous OVF designed for manual focusing... not perfect... but the best fusion of digital and analogue yet.
GaryLH
Veteran
I have heard it is so that they can put a bigger evf and be able to handle the heat generated.. On the omd, somewhere I heard that this was where ibis maybe located. Anyway take it w/ grain of salt since I cannot remember where I heard any of this.
Since I shoot both slr and rf cameras during the days of film, I really don't care, either is fine.
U call in depressing retro... I call it back to basics w/ the critical functions available even w/ the camera turned off. I look at two camera systems that are what is wrong w/ modern digital cameras
- the omd w/ its overly complex menu system
- the Nex w/ a menu system that is tooo simple
The omd I still use... It is the camera I use for bird photography..but I hate that menu system.. It has the best ibis setup which I really appreciate when shooting w/ long teles handheld.
Anyway, the big thing is we all bound differently for different reasons w/ cameras. What works for one person is not going to work for others.
Gary
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Agreed (although I wouldn't say their OVF is designed for manual focusing. Usable? most likely. But they didn't offer replaceable focusing screens).
Olympus had their chances since they were the first who pulled off the retro design and make it popular.
It's their resistance to full-frame that crippled them. IMHO.
nongfuspring
Well-known
The hump in the OMD is empty, the latest Pen also has the same 5 axis IBIS without any hump.
I'm also a big fan of manual controls that can tell you settings without having the camera on (which is why I like x cameras), but manual controls doesn't have to equal retro aesthetics. The retro aesthetic is a choice made by designers for a generation of consumers who hanker after borrowed nostalgia from a time most of us don't even remember.
kuzano
Veteran
Conceited, My Ass!
Conceited, My Ass!
The "penta prism hump" houses the 5 Axis IBIS... one of Olympus' new creative features, and keeps them leaps ahead of the Fuji "rangefinder" wannabe's.
Creativity, another attribute that has stood Olympus well since the middle of the 1900's, with camera's like the Olympus 6 folder, the OM series, the Olympus XA, the first mirrorless digital, and currently the OMD (EM5) and the EM1.
Conceited, My Ass!
The "penta prism hump" houses the 5 Axis IBIS... one of Olympus' new creative features, and keeps them leaps ahead of the Fuji "rangefinder" wannabe's.
Creativity, another attribute that has stood Olympus well since the middle of the 1900's, with camera's like the Olympus 6 folder, the OM series, the Olympus XA, the first mirrorless digital, and currently the OMD (EM5) and the EM1.
nongfuspring
Well-known
The "penta prism hump" houses the 5 Axis IBIS... one of Olympus' new creative features, and keeps them leaps ahead of the Fuji "rangefinder" wannabe's.
Creativity, another attribute that has stood Olympus well since the middle of the 1900's, with camera's like the Olympus 6 folder, the OM series, the Olympus XA, the first mirrorless digital, and currently the OMD (EM5) and the EM1.
Fuji and Oly have different strengths. At the price point, Fuji suited my needs the best. Presumably you have an Oly - good for you.
No. As I said before, no IBIS in the pentaprism hump, and if it were to house IBIS components then it still could be put into the body (like the Pen). Also, people mention the hump being a way of cooling the EVF, which is false too, the processor that runs the EVF generates heat, not the EVF itself. It's not like your computer screen or rear camera screen gets hot through usage.
It's true, Olympus made some amazing cameras in the past, the old OMs, the XA, and the stylus epics are awesome - their early 43 cameras are cool too. My issue is that from a design and marketing perspective they're resting on their laurels in every sense besides technology. The Pen and OM lines had been discontinued for 20+ years before they started using them again in order to gain some rapport with consumers who started to forget about Olympus after the weak branding of 43rds.
I'm not blaming Oly, I'm more disappointed with all the yuppie-hipsters consumers who will pay serious money to look quirky and twee that these cameras are designed to impress.
Well, if the X-Pro2 is not coming out, I welcome this camera.