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claacct
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Great idea to use a fish-eye to FORCE yourself to get in close.
I would have to disagree, these fishbowl shots look very awkward and makes one feel dizzy.
Roger Hicks
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Keep in mind that Zuccotti park is actually privately owned.
In itself an interesting subject: the 'public/private' space, and the way the 'owners' object to some cameras and not others, cf. the 'Pink Vespa' case in Scotland. I put 'owners' in quotation marks because the park was, presumably, allegedly, built for 'the public', and 'the public' can be an intractable beast.
Those who believe themselves to be in control sometimes appear to have the wonderful fantasy that mobile 'phone pics aren't 'serious', but 'real camera' shots are dangerous.
Or even 'snapshot cameras' vs. 'real cameras'. Frances and I were shooting in Bluewater in the UK once. She was carrying a Contax SLR and was told she needed a permit. I was carrying a Bessa-L and no-onee took any notice of me. Few security goons can tell a point-and-shoot from a Bess-L from an M9 -- but they all know what a DSLR looks like (or even a film SLR, which is similar but usually smaller). I tried to clarify all this with the notoriously anti-photography London Eye once, for a photo magazine, but after an hour on the 'phone they said they didn't want to be quoted. I suspect that this was because they were unable to produce a coherent statement.
Cheers,
R.
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Bobbo
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I finally got my film on a reel... here are some shots from Occupy Buffalo Sunday on My Blog. Nowhere near as big as that in NYC, however. At most, there were 15 people at one point. Then again, the Bills have been playing pretty well this year, and it was 15 minutes before kickoff...
You did a much better job than I
. Not sure about all the fisheye shots, but some of them do work.
You did a much better job than I
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Roger Hicks
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I would have to disagree, these fishbowl shots look very awkward and makes one feel dizzy.
Well, I did say that it worked better than I would have thought possible, and that more editing would have been useful, not that it was perfect.
The question of dizziness/vertigo/nausea may however be very personal indeed. I find fish-eyes a LOT less unpleasant than extremely shallow depth of field in good light (ND filters and 1/8000 shutter speeds).
Cheers,
R.
I photograph at Zucchoti park daily (work in the area), and it's been hard to get something that doesn't look like everyone else's photos of this event. Nobody's given me any problems... but its hard to get past all of the cliche shots. It's an over-covered event.
claacct
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Well, I did say that it worked better than I would have thought possible, and that more editing would have been useful, not that it was perfect.
The question of dizziness/vertigo/nausea may however be very personal indeed. I find fish-eyes a LOT less unpleasant than extremely shallow depth of field in good light (ND filters and 1/8000 shutter speeds).
Cheers,
R.
This is exactly the event for those super fast lenses and bokeh shots, because of the nasty background clutter... Maybe an enterprising photographer needs to go there, with a plan on how to photograph it effectively and if possible beautifully.
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I Love Film
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I would have to disagree, these fishbowl shots look very awkward and makes one feel dizzy.
I don't agree. I do not feel dizzy.
As far as my use of the fisheye, I was not making any artistic statement. I bought a new oddball fisheye lens a few months ago. I wanted to play with it. That's all there is to it.
If I had a Coca-Cola bottle mounted on the camera I would have shot with that.
I Love Film
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This is exactly the event for those super fast lenses and bokeh shots, because of the nasty background clutter... Maybe an enterprising photographer needs to go there, with a plan on how to photograph it effectively and if possible beautifully.
I would argue that many find the background clutter more interesting than the subjects. As historical documents the ephemera provides more information than the actors. I'm not a big fan of "bokeh", it's a vastly overdone modern gimmick.
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Brian Legge
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Here are a few Seattle photos (reusing this thread to avoid the creation of a thread per location).
I shot one roll as a series of portraits focused on the diversity of the protesters rather than more traditional protest imagery. I approached people and asked if I could take a photo. If they said yes, I took a single photo of whatever they did. Some posed, others continued whatever they were doing - no posing on my part.
Not all of these are wonderful shots but I had a reason for taking each of these pictures want wanted to show them as a series though some are stronger than others.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6235022988
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234497925
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234496939
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234930324
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234929082
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234927930
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234253243
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234252153
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234775486
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234774296
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234773086/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234771970
I shot one roll as a series of portraits focused on the diversity of the protesters rather than more traditional protest imagery. I approached people and asked if I could take a photo. If they said yes, I took a single photo of whatever they did. Some posed, others continued whatever they were doing - no posing on my part.
Not all of these are wonderful shots but I had a reason for taking each of these pictures want wanted to show them as a series though some are stronger than others.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6235022988

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234497925

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234496939

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234930324

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234929082

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234927930

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234253243

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234252153

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234775486

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234774296

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234773086/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cannelbrae/6234771970
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zauhar
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are we straying from the w/nw concept?
Is it possible for you mods to do that - set the thread so that only image links can be added?
(I suspect not - RFF must be built on top of some existing framework, and one doesn't see that flexibility out of the can.)
If it IS possible, that would be one way to quiet political commentary.
Randy
zauhar
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Brian, excellent shots.
Randy
Randy
Brian Legge
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Thank you!
I think I was more excited about this roll than anything I've taken recently. I don't know if it was the feeling of having a plan and executing, approaching people about portraits which I don't often to or the happiness with the camera (second roll shot with the Super Speedex). I think the sense of shooting with a purpose and getting results close to what I wanted was really energizing.
I think I was more excited about this roll than anything I've taken recently. I don't know if it was the feeling of having a plan and executing, approaching people about portraits which I don't often to or the happiness with the camera (second roll shot with the Super Speedex). I think the sense of shooting with a purpose and getting results close to what I wanted was really energizing.
Roger Hicks
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This is exactly the event for those super fast lenses and bokeh shots, because of the nasty background clutter... Maybe an enterprising photographer needs to go there, with a plan on how to photograph it effectively and if possible beautifully.
Well, there we are. I'd almost certainly find that dizzying and repulsive, which argues that it is indeed a question of personal perception. Besides, I agree with the OP's "I would argue that many find the background clutter more interesting than the subjects. As historical documents the ephemera provides more information than the actors. I'm not a big fan of "bokeh", it's a vastly overdone modern gimmick."
Cheers,
R.
I Love Film
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Just for historical reference, here is the approximate location of the area which includes Zuccotti Park in 1909:
http://www.shorpy.com/node/11334
I prefer detail to "bokeh".
http://www.shorpy.com/node/11334
I prefer detail to "bokeh".
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