stig_dahlin
Member
This is Liv Ullman from Ingmar Bergman's Persona. I saw the film in the mid-sixties, fell in love with the camera, and always thought it was a Nikon S - something. But is it? I can' find any S-model that fits and am getting evermore curious. Help appreciated!
Stig
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bmattock
Veteran
This is Liv Ullman from Ingmar Bergman's Persona. I saw the film in the mid-sixties, fell in love with the camera, and always thought it was a Nikon S - something. But is it? I can' find any S-model that fits and am getting evermore curious. Help appreciated!
Stig
It looks like a Leica to me. Perhaps an M3, but I am no Leica expert.
niels christopher
Established
I'am pretty sure it's an M3.
arunrajmohan
Established
It is either an M3 or an M2. Mid-sixties makes the chances for M2 bright. But the raised borders around the viewfinder, I believe might make it an M3. Don't remember an M2 with raised borders. Movie makers often prefer to use the latest and the best.
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baffosRF
Member
stig_dahlin
Member
Yes of course it's an M3! I see it clearly now. I must have brainwashed myself with this Nikon S - thing from the past.
Thank you for putting me straight!
Stig
Thank you for putting me straight!
Stig
ruby.monkey
Veteran
Perhaps a DS, from looking at the strap lugs.
HuubL
hunter-gatherer
...the hood's an irooa..
robklurfield
eclipse
the framing around the vf windows confirms this is an M3. A great movie, btw, if one likes such dark themes. contains the rather remarkable sequence where Bergman simulates film melting in the gate of a project when ... well, I won't spoil this for anyone. in essence, Bergman pulled this trick to show that the movie couldn't handle a particularly nasty act inflicted by one of the two lead characters on the other.
Reilly
Newbie
Take a look at a Nikon SP. The shape of the viewfinder is a giveaway
Reilly
Newbie
Correction : i was looking at the wrong thumbnail . Yes its one of the M Series
Ron (Netherlands)
Well-known
here some more shots from the film and its introduction:
http://www.ingmarbergman.se/media.asp?guid=EB94C488-9987-417D-BE74-F6C93BE94990&ShowAll=true
http://www.ingmarbergman.se/media.asp?guid=EB94C488-9987-417D-BE74-F6C93BE94990&ShowAll=true
Dwig
Well-known
Perhaps a DS, from looking at the strap lugs.
Rewind knob not crank = M3 or M2
Collar around lens release button = M3 and not M2
Lever rewind = not early M2
No frame line preview = early DS M3 (this is hard to see in pic)
Distinctly raised rim around VF windows = M3
Sort of boils down to early DS M3, vintage 1954-55, if the preview really isn't there and not just lost in some shadow, otherwise M3 of indeterminate vintage unless the strap lug shape can be accurately determined (I can't tell from the post image).
Ron (Netherlands)
Well-known
Rewind knob not crank = M3 or M2
Collar around lens release button = M3 and not M2
Lever rewind = not early M2
No frame line preview = early DS M3 (this is hard to see in pic)
Distinctly raised rim around VF windows = M3
Sort of boils down to early DS M3, vintage 1954-55, if the preview really isn't there and not just lost in some shadow, otherwise M3 of indeterminate vintage unless the strap lug shape can be accurately determined (I can't tell from the post image).
LOOK under here finger, there is a preview lever.
Ron (Netherlands)
Well-known
Indeed an M3 with ST and preview lever and not button rewind. But the one in the hands of Ulmann is with screws for instance under the rangefinder window, so a little bit different from yours
Instantclassic
Hans
When you own a DS M3 you feel somehow connected... and this machine is still running in times of perpetual novelties.
easyrider
Photo addict
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
Indeed an M3 with ST and preview lever and not button rewind. But the one in the hands of Ulmann is with screws for instance under the rangefinder window, so a little bit different from yours
Except for the M3 derived original Leica MP, all Leica M3s had self timers and lever rewind.
The extra body screws denotes an early M3.
The early M3 did not have a pre view lever, but many were retro fitted with it later on.
wilt
Well-known
I agree, that's definitely the case!
When you own a DS M3 you feel somehow connected... and this machine is still running in times of perpetual novelties.
R
rpsawin
Guest
Not unless it's a very early proto type. I believe the M5 was introduced in the very early 70's and this movie was filmed in the mid 60-s.
Best regard,
Bob
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