Hjortsberg
Well-known
"DBP" is right below "Leica" and the "GMBH" is next to "Ernst Leitz"
thanks
thanks
Lauffray
Invisible Cities
I know what GmBH is:
Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung (company with limited liability)
don't know for DBP
Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung (company with limited liability)
don't know for DBP
rogerzilla
Well-known
Deutsches Bundespatent
(the earlier DRP was Deutsches Reichspatent and yes, that engraving style did last for almost 10 years after the Third Reich!)
(the earlier DRP was Deutsches Reichspatent and yes, that engraving style did last for almost 10 years after the Third Reich!)
muser53
MUSER53
DBP stands for Deutsches Bundespatent...Federal German Patent
Matthew Runkel
Well-known
DBP = Deutsches Bundespatent (German federal patent)
GmbH = Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung (company with limited liability, equivalent to a corporation; used as "Inc." is in English)
GmbH = Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung (company with limited liability, equivalent to a corporation; used as "Inc." is in English)
Hjortsberg
Well-known
thanks guys. now i know!
rogerzilla
Well-known
Oh, and "M3"means Messersucher (measuring viewfinder) with 3 frames. Obviously this rule doesn't work for the M2 which also has three frames, but that was regarded as a budget model in the same vein as the Leica III and II.
nikon_sam
Shooter of Film...
thanks guys. now i know!![]()
WHAT!!! That's it...you believe them...there's probably ten things that all those letters could stand for and you grab on to the first thing these bunch of characters post...HA!!!
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errorlogin
Love vintage Hifi, too!
Oh, and "M3"means Messersucher (measuring viewfinder) with 3 frames.
LOL!!
Yes, it's supposed, that the M stands for "Meßsucher". But "Messersucher" would mean something like knife-finder. Or even better stands for somebody who is searching for a knife.....
rogerzilla
Well-known
Hey, I only got a grade "C" at "O" Level German 
Vince Lupo
Whatever
Not Leica-related, but how about VEB? As in VEB Pentacon?
stonydeluxe
Established
Volkseigener Betrieb. Meaning a company that belongs to the people (as used in the GDR).
yoyo22
Well-known
Not Leica-related, but how about VEB? As in VEB Pentacon?
Volkseigener Betrieb - people owned enterprise
Vince Lupo
Whatever
Thanks! Going a little far afield here, but I often wondered how Ihagee/Exakta remained a private company and didn't get absorbed into VEB Pentacon after the War? Is it because they were Dutch-owned?
stonydeluxe
Established
Ihagee was part of the VEB Pentacon.
Vince Lupo
Whatever
Yes, but I don't think that happened until about 1968 (sorry, guess I should have clarified in my last post!). I was wondering why they didn't become part of it much sooner, as other companies did.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Yes, but I don't think that happened until about 1968 (sorry, guess I should have clarified in my last post!). I was wondering why they didn't become part of it much sooner, as other companies did.
Ihagee was Dutch-owned. The GDR did not nationalize foreign corporations for a long time - their main argument for seizing German corporations was their support for the Nazi regime and involvement in slave labour, and Ihagee (only restituted to the owners in 45) was a victim, if any...
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HuubL
hunter-gatherer
Ihagee (spelled out from the German pronounciation for IHG=Industrie und Handelsgesellschaft) was founded by the Dutch Johan Steenbergen, but he founded the company in Dresden, before the war. After the war Dresden became part of Eastern Germany...
read: http://www.ihagee.org/ihgshorthist.htm
read: http://www.ihagee.org/ihgshorthist.htm
Vince Lupo
Whatever
Hmm.. very interesting. Great cameras, and I was fortunate to have visited Dresden a few years ago and brought my Exakta II. Would love to go back!
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