doolittle
Well-known
A good book about Caravaggio and other criminal or crazy artists is Born Under Saturn. One of the biographies actually includes translations of the original police reports on Caravaggio, various assault and batteries, carrying a sword without a permit, etc which are fun to read. I can't remember which biography it is, but there can't be that many.
Thanks! I will check it out
TareqPhoto
The Survivor
It's a photographic and cinema genre, and as the name implies it has to do with darkness, figuratively and literally.
It's kind of one of those "hard to describe but you know it when you see it" concepts. You probably already know how to identify it.
There's another thread here which is accumulating quite a few examples of the concept.
Edit: Surf here:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93032
Ah ok, thank you very much!
wolfpeterson
Established
I'm sure some of you might have seen these films, but if you want gritty, dark and somewhat disturbing films, I would highly recommend Shinya Tsukamoto's films. He is one of my favorite directors because of the cinematic style... Watch, Tetsuo: the Iron Man, Bullet Ballet and A Snake of June. His films also follow the noir-detective type storyline. Tsukamoto is such into photography and visual style that A Snake of June tells the story of a photographer who stalks a woman and takes compromising photos of her, and blackmails her into being outgoing and sexualized. In the film, the photographer (played by tsukamoto) shoots a IIIc/f, a large format press camera and a pinhole!
As for "Chiaroscuro", I was very inspired by Carravagio when in university and I made cinematic and painterly styled images.
And a setting for a noir film
As for "Chiaroscuro", I was very inspired by Carravagio when in university and I made cinematic and painterly styled images.

And a setting for a noir film

DNG
Film Friendly
This is a very interesting read.... and the images are aussume
I shoot Digital more than film, but I had to give this "Film Noir" look a try....
Taken with a Zeiss 50mm f/1.5 ZM mounted on a Panasonic G1
Original first
"film noir" look
Added grain and light source after converting to BW. Oh yeah.. flipped it to read right too.
I shoot Digital more than film, but I had to give this "Film Noir" look a try....
Taken with a Zeiss 50mm f/1.5 ZM mounted on a Panasonic G1
Original first

"film noir" look
Added grain and light source after converting to BW. Oh yeah.. flipped it to read right too.

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robklurfield
eclipse
TareqPhoto
The Survivor
I still don't know what is "Film Noir" means, but i will keep watching here and try to understand what it is.
OK, here are few shots i post here, are those any of "film noir"?
OK, here are few shots i post here, are those any of "film noir"?




DNG
Film Friendly
@ TareqPhoto
@ TareqPhoto
From what I have read and seen...the film noir look is mysterious, moody, intriguing. It has dynamic lighting, Here is a link to a set of great examples: Film Noir Look Gallery
@ TareqPhoto
From what I have read and seen...the film noir look is mysterious, moody, intriguing. It has dynamic lighting, Here is a link to a set of great examples: Film Noir Look Gallery
enochRoot
a chymist of some repute
here's a shot i've always thought of as "film noirish". neopan 400 pushed to 1600. shot w/ a 90mm summicron.

TareqPhoto
The Survivor
From what I have read and seen...the film noir look is mysterious, moody, intriguing. It has dynamic lighting, Here is a link to a set of great examples: Film Noir Look Gallery
So i have to have my models to be moody, and my lighting is mysterious and dynamic?
OK, so i will work on those look/style next time and i hope to get something.
DNG
Film Friendly
So i have to have my models to be moody, and my lighting is mysterious and dynamic?
OK, so i will work on those look/style next time and i hope to get something.
If you don't mind, I made of yours a "Film Noir" look...
A lot can be done in editing software

raytoei@gmail.com
Veteran
enochRoot: very moody very nice!
TareqPhoto
The Survivor
OK, what about this one?

DNG
Film Friendly
Yes, you have the idea now, it's not hard at all, add grain, add some contrast and maybe a single source, and vignette the corners can sometimes help... nice image.
OK, what about this one?
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gho
Well-known
Maybe Expressionism? Fritz Lang? Murnau? Blade Runner? Or maybe this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saG7EELIfMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saG7EELIfMM
TareqPhoto
The Survivor
Yes, you have the idea now, it's not hard at all, add grain, add some contrast and maybe a single source, and vignette the corners can sometimes help... nice image.
OK, i don't need to add grain because i used Delta 3200 for this shot so the grain is so clear there anyway, and i added contrast even i can scan it constrasty or flat if i want, just i have to play with the lighting next time for more drasatic horror or mysterious atmosphere.
gho
Well-known
As for getting the look, I guess pushing Tri-X 2 stops in a reasonable manner would work just fine. Make sure to get deep blacks. The atmosphere/sujet is the more difficult part.
DNG
Film Friendly
OK, i don't need to add grain because i used Delta 3200 for this shot so the grain is so clear there anyway, and i added contrast even i can scan it constrasty or flat if i want, just i have to play with the lighting next time for more drasatic horror or mysterious atmosphere.
I'm thinking Digital..... all the way through. :bang:
Yes, Delta 3200 is perfect.
I see many are using T-Max or Tri-X at ISO 1600 too.
enochRoot
a chymist of some repute
thanks!
btw...i'll second (or 10th or whatever) the opinion that helen's work is a great example of a film noir look.
enochRoot: very moody very nice!
btw...i'll second (or 10th or whatever) the opinion that helen's work is a great example of a film noir look.
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goo0h
Well-known
wow. that's very cool.here's a shot i've always thought of as "film noirish". neopan 400 pushed to 1600. shot w/ a 90mm summicron.
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
helen's work is a great example of a film noir look.
Ditto.
Some other take on the subject...


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