larmarv916
Well-known
Photography has seen many great"movements"or schools of stylistic interpertation of the period from the 1860's to present. Or a more simple questions is where is photogrpahy going now that Digital capture and original photographic methods are blurring and the borders between a straight photographic and a total fabricated implied images are now almost gone.
We have seen many supposed school of modernism during the last century. New Vision, Surrealism, Neue Sachlichkeit, Humanist.. just to mention a few. Each being considered the "New Photogrpahy". Also not forgetting the other movements that sprang up on a more localized level like the "New York School" and the "California School"and also the "Nueva Lente" movements.
So now is the time to think and talk about the next stage creative growth and are we seeing clear creative splits in photogrpahy as a artfrom?
What do you see ? and where does the future go??
Best Regards.....Laurance
We have seen many supposed school of modernism during the last century. New Vision, Surrealism, Neue Sachlichkeit, Humanist.. just to mention a few. Each being considered the "New Photogrpahy". Also not forgetting the other movements that sprang up on a more localized level like the "New York School" and the "California School"and also the "Nueva Lente" movements.
So now is the time to think and talk about the next stage creative growth and are we seeing clear creative splits in photogrpahy as a artfrom?
What do you see ? and where does the future go??
Best Regards.....Laurance
MikeL
Go Fish
Given the increase use of continuous mode with digital, and of course video, I see the next movement will be the Flipbook Movement.
This will put a premium on paper development that will optimize feel and response as you thumb across (aka flip) the paper edges and watch still images become 'life-like' and a 'moving' picture.
You heard it here first.
This will put a premium on paper development that will optimize feel and response as you thumb across (aka flip) the paper edges and watch still images become 'life-like' and a 'moving' picture.
You heard it here first.
Chris101
summicronia
Manipulated realism has been around for a long time and finds a lot of use in advertising. Except for enhancers like Dave Hill and Jill Greenberg, I haven't seen altered reality catch on in art much.
I'm hoping some post-post-post modern grunge will catch fire, cause that is what I do.
BillP
Rangefinder General
Excellent and thought-provoking question.
FWIW I think we will see a splintering rather than a concerted "movement". There will be no one dominant school that represents the zeitgeist, rather a loosely bordered and overlapping set of approaches.
I also suspect that we will see a blending of media, with sound and vision coming to the fore and a move away from the unmanipulated image to something more artificial at one end, and a return to "photo-realism" at the other. This last may well lead to a resurgence of film as a backlash to the infinite manipulation opportunities presented by digital. I could see a "photo-purist" movement being one of the "splinters".
As I said, a thought provoking question - I'm watching with interest for further responses.
Regards,
Bill
FWIW I think we will see a splintering rather than a concerted "movement". There will be no one dominant school that represents the zeitgeist, rather a loosely bordered and overlapping set of approaches.
I also suspect that we will see a blending of media, with sound and vision coming to the fore and a move away from the unmanipulated image to something more artificial at one end, and a return to "photo-realism" at the other. This last may well lead to a resurgence of film as a backlash to the infinite manipulation opportunities presented by digital. I could see a "photo-purist" movement being one of the "splinters".
As I said, a thought provoking question - I'm watching with interest for further responses.
Regards,
Bill
Spider67
Well-known
I see strong signs that historic methods like ambrotype and the old printing techniques will have a comeback.
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varjag
Guest
I think such attempts of predicting art trends are futile. No one could predict impressionists, Pollock, Winogrand, etc. If you can come up with something in 5 minutes here, it only means it's been around for ages.
Nh3
Well-known
One thing is for sure, "the decisive moment" style of photography is out-dated and cliched.
Robert Frank is in and Cartier-Bresson is out.
Robert Frank is in and Cartier-Bresson is out.
pesphoto
Veteran
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varjag
Guest
I see there are still people for whom Frank is "new" photography 
larmarv916
Well-known
Well....one thing that is historically interesting and motivated me to ask everyone to look at this idea from any and every angle.....Is that so many times in the past there has been a resurgance of so called "modernist" photographers. Each time these were efforts to define an image based on theme and technical aspects required of an image.
A good case in point was the NEW VISION movement..started in the early 1920's it opened the door for the unfulled "Futurism" movement to restart and allowed for the inclusion of techniques of PHOTOMONTAGE ( Ivo Pannaggi , Vinicio Paladini ) , DOUBLE EXPOSURE (Tato), OPTICAL DISTORTION ( Giulio Pariso) and AERIAL PHOTGRAPHY (MASOERO ). All seen at the time as new ways to reflect reality in dramtically differnt methods. That said...I see that digital photogrpahy and the combination of software systems like Adobe Creative Suties productts...which allow for almost excessive fabrication of photo captured objects and illustrated objects to overlap.
It is easy to take photo images for many directions...not created by the "user" and then roll them together with any other subject material and produce a realistic or fantasy "finished" image. Of Course Surrealism has been with us a long time, but what I am looking at is way beyond that. A good example is the famous idea of putting a head or face on an unrelated body for purpsoes of political satire. As just one example.
Journalism has lost it's foundation of relevance and honessty. Video and the instant connected aspect of instant coverage via cell phones and You Tube has already created a flood of content that is meaningless "junk food" entertainment.
So where are photogrpahers who are actually focused on the focused effort to create "still" images of a new direction or on a higher photographic level moving towards ??
Also when are we going to be able to distance ourselves from trying to "MIMIC" photographers of the last century ?? Will the stupid gallery and commerical shadow mavens stop tyring to prevet the public's ideas of " photography's mission".
Best Regards....Laurance
A good case in point was the NEW VISION movement..started in the early 1920's it opened the door for the unfulled "Futurism" movement to restart and allowed for the inclusion of techniques of PHOTOMONTAGE ( Ivo Pannaggi , Vinicio Paladini ) , DOUBLE EXPOSURE (Tato), OPTICAL DISTORTION ( Giulio Pariso) and AERIAL PHOTGRAPHY (MASOERO ). All seen at the time as new ways to reflect reality in dramtically differnt methods. That said...I see that digital photogrpahy and the combination of software systems like Adobe Creative Suties productts...which allow for almost excessive fabrication of photo captured objects and illustrated objects to overlap.
It is easy to take photo images for many directions...not created by the "user" and then roll them together with any other subject material and produce a realistic or fantasy "finished" image. Of Course Surrealism has been with us a long time, but what I am looking at is way beyond that. A good example is the famous idea of putting a head or face on an unrelated body for purpsoes of political satire. As just one example.
Journalism has lost it's foundation of relevance and honessty. Video and the instant connected aspect of instant coverage via cell phones and You Tube has already created a flood of content that is meaningless "junk food" entertainment.
So where are photogrpahers who are actually focused on the focused effort to create "still" images of a new direction or on a higher photographic level moving towards ??
Also when are we going to be able to distance ourselves from trying to "MIMIC" photographers of the last century ?? Will the stupid gallery and commerical shadow mavens stop tyring to prevet the public's ideas of " photography's mission".
Best Regards....Laurance
yanidel
Well-known
Maybe the next movement will be depend on its support than content. Digital frames will become digital walls ... larger quantities of pictures and animated contents will be needed with a need of integration with their surroundings.
Photography is just at the beginning ...
Photography is just at the beginning ...
Nh3
Well-known
I see there are still people for whom Frank is "new" photography
Yes it is, because what frank did was focused on the subject and what Bresson did was focused on the form.
The subject is ever changing and always the main narrative drive of a picture.
yanidel
Well-known
Interesting experience. Will visitors be able to interact with them? for example pause the slideshow so they can contemplate more time a given image ?
outforalaska
Member
Not a movement really; but, I think the picture posting on google earth is pretty cool. Unfortunately for popular spots, about 50 really crappy pictures come up.
Maybe somebody could come up with a sort of geocaching-photography activity.
Maybe somebody could come up with a sort of geocaching-photography activity.
Ghost in the Shell
Newbie
Wasn't that original idea expressed in Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451?
Then still there would need to be printed versions and digital transferable versions. Plus Digital Fraud these days is relatively easy.
aizan
Veteran
there's jeff wall and gregory crewdson at the top, and to a lesser degree philip-lorca dicorcia, katy grannan, ryan mcginley, and many others.
gyuribacsi
Established
Well, I think it depends more on the future mission or mandate of photography than on the form of presentation.
I`m an old fart. I am interested to see a story in the photos. No matter how it is shown to me, as a video, a print or a slideshow. I´m not interested in heavily manipulated digital oevres, the more reality the more interesting.
But as metioned above, what will be the future mission (in art) of phtography?
Information? Entertainment? Ecleticism? All of them? I don`t know.
I can not see any new photographic stile in this moment (in germany). In some galleries in Munich you can see photos sold as art which makes you wonder why.
Cheers
George
I`m an old fart. I am interested to see a story in the photos. No matter how it is shown to me, as a video, a print or a slideshow. I´m not interested in heavily manipulated digital oevres, the more reality the more interesting.
But as metioned above, what will be the future mission (in art) of phtography?
Information? Entertainment? Ecleticism? All of them? I don`t know.
I can not see any new photographic stile in this moment (in germany). In some galleries in Munich you can see photos sold as art which makes you wonder why.
Cheers
George
ampguy
Veteran
3 major paradigm shifts in photography coming
3 major paradigm shifts in photography coming
1. The reduction of megapixels for increased perception. The perception of images vs megapixels is a bell curve. The peak for perceived realism is about 6. There will be a major class action lawsuit against the top camera makers for peddling higher MP cameras, and anyone who has ever purchased a higher MP camera will get a free memory card in the settlement.
2. Dual image photo books, not unlike stereo for audio with discrete L/R soundfields, visual photographs will follow this trend. Like DVD - Digital Versatile Disc, DIP (Dual Image Photo) books will have multiple uses including being able to see an image with your pet, the image for the pet will be distorted just right for the pets vision so you can both look at the photos together. Images will be available not only on books, but on Blu-Ray media, best viewed on the Sony Playstation 3 with Java programmed menus.
3. The demise of monochrome. Monochrome will become a niche like IR photography, as photographers accept the fact that the human eye sockets contain not only rods, but cones for the ability to see more than just monochrome. All existing monochrome prints will immediately be colorized by art students using Photoshop.
3 major paradigm shifts in photography coming
1. The reduction of megapixels for increased perception. The perception of images vs megapixels is a bell curve. The peak for perceived realism is about 6. There will be a major class action lawsuit against the top camera makers for peddling higher MP cameras, and anyone who has ever purchased a higher MP camera will get a free memory card in the settlement.
2. Dual image photo books, not unlike stereo for audio with discrete L/R soundfields, visual photographs will follow this trend. Like DVD - Digital Versatile Disc, DIP (Dual Image Photo) books will have multiple uses including being able to see an image with your pet, the image for the pet will be distorted just right for the pets vision so you can both look at the photos together. Images will be available not only on books, but on Blu-Ray media, best viewed on the Sony Playstation 3 with Java programmed menus.
3. The demise of monochrome. Monochrome will become a niche like IR photography, as photographers accept the fact that the human eye sockets contain not only rods, but cones for the ability to see more than just monochrome. All existing monochrome prints will immediately be colorized by art students using Photoshop.
imajypsee
no expiration date
ampguy, that's too funny!!
ampguy, that's too funny!!
and, for the person who is going to include a slideshow on a digital screen at your next show, I just went to a show where someone did that. It was an installation with no prints for sale, but I sat and watched it two or three times over.
I also went to a show today and bought two framed silver prints.
As for the future and photographic "movements" I think there won't be one; there will be many. And the styles will be very liquid between photographers and people who manipulate digital files/photos. I have some old negatives that I scanned last summer and found the colors to have been drastically changed; I just made one into a black and white and another I kept the "off" color intact (there were big yellow blobs throughout the negative). http://www.pbase.com/jypsee/image/82935820
Both have been printed and framed and sold. Young people like them. I'm 63 and I like them. But, I rarely see a photograph that I don't like
Mary in SW Florida, USA
ampguy, that's too funny!!
and, for the person who is going to include a slideshow on a digital screen at your next show, I just went to a show where someone did that. It was an installation with no prints for sale, but I sat and watched it two or three times over.
I also went to a show today and bought two framed silver prints.
As for the future and photographic "movements" I think there won't be one; there will be many. And the styles will be very liquid between photographers and people who manipulate digital files/photos. I have some old negatives that I scanned last summer and found the colors to have been drastically changed; I just made one into a black and white and another I kept the "off" color intact (there were big yellow blobs throughout the negative). http://www.pbase.com/jypsee/image/82935820
Both have been printed and framed and sold. Young people like them. I'm 63 and I like them. But, I rarely see a photograph that I don't like
Mary in SW Florida, USA