What is the "next movement" in Photogrpahy?

I totally agree with Chris101, except that I think it will be post, post modern grunge. I do a little of it, and feel the movement swelling:

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Very interesting and thought provoking question and, if I may, I'd like to give an analogous answer.

I liken it to music; you had your basic rock n' roll (50's) and beat music (60's) expanding, through psychedelia, to progressive rock. This was followed by a complete reversal and a return to basics in the form of punk rock (this is the UK version of rock history).

I feel, with the advent of photoshop/lightbox/etc, that we are the psychedelic stage which will expand and grow until we reach prog rock proportions. Eventually people, sick of abstracts and manipulation, ('Oh, nice photo.' 'Thanks, it only took me three hours with Photoshop to perfect it'!), will return to basics and all the RF prices on the bay will shoot up again! :)

By the way, I'm a Progressive rock fan which probably explains the over-the-top, pretentious answer! :D But when it comes to photography I'm all for Punk rock.
 
ColinW said:
... when it comes to photography I'm all for Punk rock.
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Well, post-modern is Punk rock.

charjohncarter said:
... I think it will be post, post modern grunge. ...
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Post-post, aka post punk, is what they call alternative these days in the music world. Since it's becoming commercialized, and post punk poppers are getting rich, I call it 'post post post'. Post stacking if you will. At some point, we will quit referring to Modernism at all, and then there can be a new movement. Currently though, it's all really Modern photography.
 
Chris101 said:
Well, post-modern is Punk rock.

Post-post, aka post punk, is what they call alternative these days in the music world. Since it's becoming commercialized, and post punk poppers are getting rich, I call it 'post post post'. Post stacking if you will. At some point, we will quit referring to Modernism at all, and then there can be a new movement. Currently though, it's all really Modern photography.
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What? I probably agree.

Carter
 
ampguy said:
1. The reduction of megapixels for increased perception. The perception of images vs megapixels is a bell curve. The peak for perceived realism is about 6. There will be a major class action lawsuit against the top camera makers for peddling higher MP cameras, and anyone who has ever purchased a higher MP camera will get a free memory card in the settlement.

2. Dual image photo books, not unlike stereo for audio with discrete L/R soundfields, visual photographs will follow this trend. Like DVD - Digital Versatile Disc, DIP (Dual Image Photo) books will have multiple uses including being able to see an image with your pet, the image for the pet will be distorted just right for the pets vision so you can both look at the photos together. Images will be available not only on books, but on Blu-Ray media, best viewed on the Sony Playstation 3 with Java programmed menus.

3. The demise of monochrome. Monochrome will become a niche like IR photography, as photographers accept the fact that the human eye sockets contain not only rods, but cones for the ability to see more than just monochrome. All existing monochrome prints will immediately be colorized by art students using Photoshop.
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First of all much of this has already happened, except the lawsuits. Though they seem as if to just be lurking around the corner of the future.

Second, wiether people realise it or not BlueRay is a dead media, except for maby use as archival storage. And even that posability is being eaten up by the faster and ultra small high capacity Flash & Hard Drives that have been popping up. Also with the digital galleries, and online self corrosive iTunes movie rentals it made Blue Ray a thing of the past 2-3 months ago. It's like a dead man walking he just does not know it yet until it is too late.
 
Wow.

Wow.

Ghost in the Shell said:
... BlueRay is a dead media...

...iTunes movie rentals it made Blue Ray a thing of the past 2-3 months ago. It's like a dead man walking he just does not know it yet until it is too late.
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Interesting, I did not know this.

Now when iTunes can deliver me an iFrenchfries and iSalad through that firewire port, then I'll say goodbye to Blockbuster and Redbox :D
 
I think all art movements are basically invented by critics after the fact, so that they can understand more easily the motivations of unique individuals. Most movement artists are just hangers-on.

The next movement will mostly consist of people imitating a handful of inspired people, who by then will have moved on to something else.

*steals Ted's iFries*
 
varjag said:
I see there are still people for whom Frank is "new" photography :)
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Unfortunately, there are a lot of people for whom Alfred Stieglitz is "new" photography... :eek::bang::bang::bang:

William
 
I'll idly opine that these areas are open for current creative work, given recent advances in digital technologies as well as film emulsions:

(1) A fresh reinterpretation of representationalism and abstraction. "How do the things look?" more than "What are the things?". A simple (and controversial) example would be the work some are doing in High Dynamic Range photography, but I think there are a much wider areas newly available for innovation. Given new ways of capturing the light, how are colours represented? What patterns and geometries are pleasing within the latest captures? Have new digital and analog photographic techniques given us new playgrounds for expression? Obviously so. In this newly fresh context, what is abstract and what is iconographical? There's space for creativity there.

(2) I have found, myself, that my favourite means of viewing photos is by setting my (digitally scanned) archive to display randomly in my screensaver. The effect is both mesmerizing and instructive. I'll often find myself staring at the screen, just enjoying the display of these images. Of course, since at one time I captured all of them, they trigger memories. But in addition, nearly every time the screensaver kicks in, I discover something new about one of the images. Either some technical issue with exposure or focus, or emotionally pleasing composition (see point (1) above), or some new iconographic element within the picture I had never noticed before which redefines the experience. Now, this is not the same as flipping through a printed album (the images are painted differently, and appear at random). The experience has something in common with viewing on a backlit light table -- but even for images captured as negatives, not just slides. And there's some element of a projected slide show in the clarity and size of the image on my big computer screen. All of this tells me that this method of display is somehow, artistically or emotionally, not the same as the old methods.

So I think there's a lot of room for exciting work, and I look forward to seeing some!
 
If we look at the post war WWII....Art and Photography markets. Journalism took the publishing and fine art world by storm and then the photogrpahy fine arts moved in the direction these Plastic or Phony,...stagged reality images. As a super realism of color images with over strobing..something many gallery's and art directors today still seem to think of as cutting edge. Or as I like to call imitations of people like D. Arbus..only most often seen in color.

Recently there was a flirting with the idea of Super Macro and Electronic Macro images...which is so historically "been there - done that" Now journalism that photographers who were all just recreating the "decisive moment" as the sole tool for every image. Some better than others. Are we really seeing a split where single stand alone images will be such a tiny niche that it becomes a dying metaphor??

As the savage onslaught of "over shooting" by digital image army just holds the trigger down until the flash card is full...As if to turn everything into a protracted study in slow moition??
As if that is some how a original artistic idea??

The conversation with the art director goes something like.....Oh here is 240 exclusive images of ten seconds of....."whatever subject "

Iam sure there will be some new phoogrpaher that will grab the world attention of 5 min.

But should we be even thinking of really thinking of photographs a an image as being from an unaltered slice of film or unaltered digital capture file?

TICKER TAPE streams of images or auto albums, such as I get without any effort from my ITouch...Does the oversized monitor now become the "frame" you hang on your wall inplace of the phyiscal print in frame.....I do not know. but all this give me cause for thought and concern.

Best Regards...Laurance
 
I'm certain that there is going to be a subset at least, of the photographic art derived from dead and dying digi sensors of the latest new fangled technology
Variations of purple cast, solarized landscapes flare effects, unexpected colourisations and many other similar digital renditions, the terminology of which I am not altogether familiar with.
Dave
 
Hello Dave.....I like your style....and I agree. The reason this "issue" about what road photography and photographers flying down at breakneck speed is.....We as the photo addicted creators....good bad or otherwise. All shoot because of internal need...at least for myself. But as a group there are lots of cross currents of subjects and treatments. As we all seach for new and interesting areas to explore. Are we all at the mercy of the herd mentality that seems to rule the gallery and publishing world ???

Or do we as photographers or the "aware photographers" need to create more ways for non-commerical exhibition situations.....almost creating a form of photo-exhibition art where the public can make direct contact without the infulence of the gallery mavens ??

Like the "Chalk" artists we find in Europe. Somewhat like having a exhibition that is single subject or theme. For only a short time period like a perfromance.

Or another alternative would be to have RFF symposium that is a portfoilo review where anyone who enters does a display and discussion on thier work. Reviewed by shooters not gallery lifeforms??

The goal being to see or spot any new trends in the growth of photography.

Iam not sure any these is a remedy but only ideas for investigation and discussion for development of photographers operating in the real world of normal photo addicts.

Best Regards....Laurance
 
It grows and grows until its sinks back to the basics.

Digital picture frames will be used a lot in some period, but I doubt that period is very long.

I read somewhere that photography set painting free. With the advent of photography, painters were less concerned about showing realism, and started to distort reality for an emotional effect (expressionism). Maybe its the same with film and digital. Film will be the artists medium, and digi will be used for realistic images.
 
There is a new Canon Rebel commerical on TV...I saw it for thr first time. But what is really interesting and relates directly to the thread, is the way the commerical presents the way a user would use the camera. The commerical show how all you need to do is just hold the button / shutter release button.......and it is a cascading presentation of endless images. Of a theme of different events.....the commerical makes it clear that the "mulit frames" persecond allows you to just "follow" an action. Just point and do stop shooting. is the real theme.

So there were comments by my self and many others about the " wall of photos or single images that are actually strung together in a kind of super stop action media display.

The concept for Canon is of course to sell equipment that is "goof proof" and only requires your ability to hold the shutter release for a 5 or 8 frames persecond endless string of images that almost are now bordering on Video files.

The disturbing aspect is not the mindless consumerism or that any event is now a historical moment of importance. But that the idea that any photo you shoot is equal to any other. Seems be major step down in towards making any image meaningless.

People are actually spending less to make a quality print and more time just either e-sharing or creating albums in the Ipod or computers. Intersting.

Best Regards....Laurance
 
i think in the future everything will happen at the same time in music, art and society. All sorts of movements will happen everywhere and they will not go in and out of style, but will move from one social strata to another, as a different one takes its place.
...So for Canadians it could be bluegrass techno in 2018, then pop grunge, as the bluegrass techno becomes a hit in the beaches of Ibizza, etc. he he.

"movement" is as much a product of marketing and strategy if nothing else. If Sony doesnt tell my daughter that Brittany Spears is cool, she may just make up her own mind on what she likes! (oh pleeeaaase let that be the case LOL)
 
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