What it is, what is it?

Poptart

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Here's a picture of the back of my oldest contact printing frame, a wormy chestnut beauty made by E & H.T. Anthony & Co. The puzzle is that little pinwheel, which is highlighted, numbered 1-12 and provided with a spring-loaded adjustment. Why? I ask myself. What is this innovation meant to improve? The guesser with the most compelling answer wins a duck.
 
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Poptart said:
Here's a picture of the back of my oldest contact printing frame, a wormy chestnut beauty made my A and EH Anthony Co. The puzzle is that little pinwheel, which is highlighted, numbered 1-12 and provided with a spring-loaded adjustment. Why? I ask myself. What is this innovation meant to improve? The guesser with the most compelling answer wins a duck.

Number of prints made. After 12, you need to check developer for exhaustion or, if batch processing this is a reminder that the batch is ready to go. It is also a good idea to clean the frame for paper dust, marks on glass, etc.

Quack.
 
How do they know the volume of your developing solution? This, more than anything, determines the life of the tray.
 
Hey Poppy, I just gave you the answer to the quesiton, not the history of developers. My same sources tell me, thought, that this thing is so old that there was only one or two standard paper developers, and both had a standard capacity of 12 prints maximum in an 8x10-ish tray. Larger trays will accomodate more prints, of course, but why not err on the side of caution?

I await your next question with anticipation ... it will roll off my back like water off a ....

Earl
 
Trius said:
Hey Poppy, I just gave you the answer to the quesiton, not the history of developers. My same sources tell me, thought, that this thing is so old that there was only one or two standard paper developers, and both had a standard capacity of 12 prints maximum in an 8x10-ish tray. Larger trays will accomodate more prints, of course, but why not err on the side of caution?

I await your next question with anticipation ... it will roll off my back like water off a ....

Earl

I feel like I've been watching an old Groucho "You Bet Your Life" rerun.

Earl said the magic word! He said the magic word!

OOPS - damn, dated myself again! Even on reruns that was a zillion years ago!

NO I AM NOT THE 90+ YEAR OLD ON FRANK S's "AGE THREAD"!!!! :angel:
 
Hmm, yes, it's old: made between 1862-1901. My next question would be, What's the difference between a Creamsicle and a Dreamsicle? (Now it's time to try to beat the other couple.)
 
Poptart said:
Hmm, yes, it's old: made between 1862-1901. My next question would be, What's the difference between a Creamsicle and a Dreamsicle? (Now it's time to try to beat the other couple.)

Pops,

The Creamsicle is made from cream. The Dreamsicle is made from milk. "Milksicle" didn't sound good to the marketing gurus so they decided to call it a Dreamsicle.
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You can dream that you're eating a Creamsicle.
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R.J.
 
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Close but no cigar. The Creamsicle is orange ice cream with a vanilla ice cream center. The Dreamsicle is orange sherbet (sorbet) with a vanilla ice cream center. Both--along with the Fudgesicle--were invented by the same man, Frank Epperson.
 
Poptart said:
The puzzle is that little pinwheel, which is highlighted, numbered 1-12 and provided with a spring-loaded adjustment.
I'd guess it's a timing device. If I remember my reading on 19th century printing the papers were pretty slow. If you knew it would take a few hours, you just drop by the contact printer every hour and turn the wheel a notch until it had cooked in the sun long enough.

Peter
 
Poptart said:
Hmm, yes, it's old: made between 1862-1901. My next question would be, What's the difference between a Creamsicle and a Dreamsicle? (Now it's time to try to beat the other couple.)


Dreamsicle


INGREDIENTS:

* 1 1/4 oz. Amaretto
* Splash of Orange juice
* Splash of Cream or Half & Half


Creamsicle

1/2 oz. Vodka or Orange Vodka
1/2 oz. Triple Sec
1 oz. Orange Juice
1 oz. Cream

what do I win?
 
Getting back to the dial on the back of that printing frame...

...Lessee, the numbers run from one to twelve. Why those numbers? Is this device for forensic printing, so you can keep track of which copy of Exhibit A goes to which juror? I don't think so. What other photographic processes back in the late 19th century might be relevant to numbers 1 through 12?

Aha, how about... hours of the day? Way back then, a lot of contact printing was done on printing-out paper, which didn't require development, but which DID require hugely long exposures, often on the order of several hours. The way you'd determine correct exposure was to load the print frame and lay it out in the sun; then, periodically, you'd come back, open one part of the back of the print frame (this is why they were designed to be opened in sections) and take a peek at the printing-out paper to see whether you had enough exposure yet. (You couldn't do this from the front because the negative was in the way!)

But during a busy afternoon of printing in this way, think how easy it would be to lose track of how long you had exposed each print. Solution: a little ratcheting "exposure time reminder." Put out your print frame, come back an hour later, check it, and then advance the dial a notch (that's why it's handily located next to the removable panel, so you won't forget it.) Check after another hour, advance the dial again. Why do the numbers only go up to 12? Because after 12 hours, it's probably going to be night, and no further exposure is possible!

Anyway, that's my theory. I'll pass on the duck, unless it's a l'orange...
 
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Aha, how about... hours of the day? Way back then, a lot of contact printing was done on printing-out paper, which didn't require development, but which DID require hugely long exposures, often on the order of several hours.
Something about this feels genuine to me. I like the 12 hrs/24 hr day theory. It explains the 12.
 
If you are printing by inspection, why do you need to know how long the exposure has progressed? The amount of UV in sun/daylight can vary greatly, so an hour or exposure on Monday might have no bearing to the exposure needed on Wednesday.
 
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