What use for extreme wideangles?

One thing nice about the use of wide angle lenses is hardly ever mentioned.

If you properly enlarge a wide-angle picture (e.g. 45cmx30cm or bigger), AND you look at it from a realitively close distance (e.g. 15cm), the perceived perspective becomes similar as to when you took the photo. The exagerated sense of distortion starts to disappear. Most photos you look at have these ratios reversed being 15cm wide and looked at from 30cm
 
I've found that learning to use extreme wides to thier potential is very challenging. I had the CV-21 and opted to sell it and pick up the CV-25 instead. The 25 suits my tastes a little better and doesn't scream out "wide" as much as the 21 did with the distortion near the edge of the frame. The CV-25 is the 1st lens I would be willing to part with if I had to give one up. I'm just not an extreme wide angle kind of guy I guess and I don't like external finders. I would happily swap the 25 with finder for a 28mm. I've heard with the Bessa R and a 28mm you can use the internal finder and just ignore the frame lines. Some peoples cup of tea. Just not mine.
 
Hi Oscar,

these (as well as most of the others in this thread) are actually very good. I do find the perspective a bit disorienting in some shots, and I think many of them would work just as well with a slightly wider lens. Judging how near I have to go to the subject to have format-filling persons, I think it might actually be easier with a wider lens, because it's less disorienting.

How much more extreme is the 5.6/12 in comparison with the 4.5/15? Is it telling that so far everybody is referring to the 15?

From playing around with the 4/21 for a couple of days, I notice it's a completely different approach to photography. I find myself scale focusing a lot more, making selective use of the large depth of field of the lens, and it's overall much faster, closer and more immediate. I am enjoying it very much.

It's interesting how a wide lens lends itself more to a rangefinder-style approach to photography where the camera is really more of an abstract intermediate tool that is used more selectively. Tomorrow there's a wedding, and I'm already looking forward to shooting there. So far most of my rangefinder photography would have been possible with a SLR as well, but with the wideangle I'm finally at a point where the rangefinder is really the only way to go.

The irony being, of course, that I am not really using the rangefinder itself all that much and scale focusing instead. A Bessa T starts to look reasonable. I wish the Bessa R had extra exposure LEDs at the top, too. I also wish the lens had click stops on the focusing ring at the hyperfocal distances for f16, f11 and f8, possibly f4 as well, something I would never have thought of before. Do the 4.5/15 or the 5.6/12 have these?

BTW What is "Kris' Tritoning method"?

Philipp
 
Very nice work Oscar, the 15 suits you well, and I agree with your comment about how it handles the skies.

Todd
 
rxmd,
I can't speak for Oscar but I will tell you the scale focus method is what I use with the 15mm since it's not coupled. The body then just becomes a place to mount the lens and trip the shutter, a bessa T or L would really be a nice compliment to the lens. Using a lens like the 15 is fun, I dial in my closest distance, usually 2.5 feet, and with the extreme depth of field everything is pretty much in focus.
For the wedding you could get a moderatly fast film, say 400-800, preset the scale and just point and shoot.

good luck and please post some results of the wedding.

Todd
 
What Todd said 🙂 I use my 15 in pretty much the same way (with a Bessa-T btw).

And Kris' tritoning is just because it was our fellow RFFer Kris who introduced me into the infinite range of options of Photoshop Tritone images.

As for the falloff on the 12, haven't tried, but I would say it could be quite exagerated...

Cheers and good luck !
 
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Interior shot. Bessa L and 12mm Heliar.
 
Heh there are some great shots in this thread - thanks for posting your examples.

I really like my 15mm ,and I use it more than the 25mm.

Sometimes the distorion is there, sometimes not so much...and I too love the way it renders the sky.
 

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Yes, the 15 mm is great! 1 week old and 1 roll so far...
The use of the 15 mm is a nice photographing process when you have to move so close to people in order to get something done.

The 21 mm is nice too, but I think I will be using the 15 mm even more.

The best thing about the 15 mm is that you don´t have to dream about the 12 mm ... 😀


15 mm

http://www.fotosidan.se/gallery/viewpic.htm/704438.htm?set=lp

this one is really close
http://www.fotosidan.se/gallery/viewpic.htm/704427.htm?set=lp

http://www.fotosidan.se/gallery/viewpic.htm/705199.htm?set=lp


21 mm

http://www.fotosidan.se/gallery/viewpic.htm/705214.htm?set=lp

http://www.fotosidan.se/gallery/viewpic.htm/701334.htm?set=lp

http://www.fotosidan.se/gallery/viewpic.htm/699581.htm?set=lp
 
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