What's going on here?!

[egpj]

Well, allot of the M8 threads I chose to stay away from after my initial indignation over how Leica did not manage the cameras problems. So I have not seen the posts that got out of sorts at Sean. Really, all the reviewers took a hit on this one. If he didn't have any problems with the camera when testing then fine. I can give him the benefit of the doubt. Sean has a good history here, a history of being a helpful kind of guy. Yep, he is in business and like most of us he is not in business to lose money but make it. Those who review products are between a rock and a hard place. I hope that Sean starts to hang around here again but the longer he stays away the less likely it is that he will come back.

 

[Toby]

Does anyone else notice that the cheaper a camera is the nicer the forum and the more helpful the people. And sometimes the better photos contained within 😀

 

[Flyfisher Tom]

just because RFF is getting bigger, does not mean civility needs to be a casualty ... I refuse to accept that friendliness depends on the forum's size

unfortunately, moderators can't be everywhere at every hour, that is what the "ignore list" function is for if someone truly irks you at every turn 😉 use it, and relax with a cup of coffee

 

[Sparrow]

A good stew needs salt, too little and it’s bland, too much its inedible the mix seems about right to me.
Mind you I’m from Yorkshire where plain speaking is a virtue, and disagreeing without being disagreeable is the norm. So if I’ve ever offended anyone on the board I’ll take this opportunity to apologise

 

[dcsang]

Whatcha going for now, Dave? 😉

I was eyeing Tom's CL.. and considered letting go of my IIIc and screw mount elmar and summaron. Then I realized I got enough gear 😀 ( for now . . . )

Civility has always been a hallmark of RFF.

I agree with Tom that it does not mean, because RFF has grown in size, that such things as "gentlemanly manners" have to go by the wayside.

The only thing I find frustrating is the rather blunt comments that seem to be made by folks who may be "new" to using this method of communication; that is, forums and the internet.

Many don't bother to use one of the best forum search tools around that we have here. Try doing the searches here and then see if you can do the same at Fredmiranda or any other site - good luck !! Yet people don't use the search tool so we do, inevitably, end up with multiple threads on the same topic. I recognize this; understand it, and don't usually enter into reading or responding to those threads.

The recent spate of M8 threads does get a bit tiresome; from both sides of the coin. Those that worship the M8 like it was divine providence as well as those that denigrate it seem to feel the need to do so very regularly. This does, as other members have suggested, happen often with digital bodies. To me, I am, and always will be, happy to use film in my M2 and M7 and currently have no desire for a digital M because to me, as many of you know, it's not JUST about images coming out of the camera; it's the entire photographic experience; and that's why I am on RFF and why I am a member here.

It's good to see that Leica is trying to make amends for something that should have been dealt with before releasing the camera. I hope this settles things for those out there that have purchased the body and that it doesn't further hinder sales of the M8.

Dave

 

[back alley]

What's going on here?!

business as usual, as far as i can see.
maybe you had a bad day or feel the need for some bloodletting?

this tired argument about people leaving...get over it...people leave our lives all the time.

both bill & roger ARE STILL MEMBERS HERE, they chose to leave...others choose to stay.
some talk about leaving and never do...it takes all kinds i guess.

are we the perfect forum?, doubtful, but it's still good enough to keep me coming back for more.

joe

 

[MCTuomey]

I appreciate the reminder to be civil, especially on the more incendiary topics of late. I'm gulity of a lack of civility lately, thinking back on some recent posts.

The galleries here are an inspiration, as always.

As for the forums, I'll do my best to say nothing rather than dwell on negativity.

 

[rover]

You can't stop change, and in some way all change is progress. My attitude is the same now (I think) that I am a moderator as it was when I was not, my behavior is different though in some ways. I have to have an opinion or not ignore certain posts that I would have before, but that is part of the territory. Honestly I read the M8 posts to make sure nobody has pulled a gun, but I have to say I don't get deep into the content of the threads. That is just me and no more right or wrong than everyone else's opinion who is deeply interested in this new wonder.

I will always say, the most important contribution we make to RFF is in our sharing though our posts. If we all treat that as carefully as we do our cameras we will be fine here.

 

[iml]

I've only been here a couple of months, but the place seems friendly to me, I've seen a bit of angst in some of the M8 threads but nothing very incendiary. I've certainly seen much worse elsewhere.

The gallery is really good too, there are some excellent photographers here.

Ian

 

[ywenz]

I think Sean's participation on RFF correlates directly to how much activities are occuring in the M8 forums. The the flip-side, the M8 threads are very active on the Leica users forum.