Ronald M
Veteran
We don`t like the rules, but what would the correct response be to small powerful explosives such as underwear bomber, shoe bomber, and putting explosives inside printer ink cartridges?
Latest is scorpions in overhead bins and inside coat sleeves. They don`t crawl there, they are put there. By whom remains to be discovered.
Then we have brawls and overbooking and mistreatment by crew. Time to rethink how we travel.
Latest is scorpions in overhead bins and inside coat sleeves. They don`t crawl there, they are put there. By whom remains to be discovered.
Then we have brawls and overbooking and mistreatment by crew. Time to rethink how we travel.
Chubberino
Well-known
Ronald M's conspiracy theory's are something else, lol.
emraphoto
Veteran
Here are the cities...
The ban was revealed on Monday in statements from Royal Jordanian Airlines and the official news agency of Saudi Arabia. It will apply to non-stop flights to the US from 10 international airports serving the cities of Cairo in Egypt; Amman in Jordan; Kuwait City in Kuwait; Casablanca in Morocco; Doha in Qatar; Riyadh and Jeddah in Saudi Arabia; Istanbul in Turkey; and Abu Dhabi and Dubai in the United Arab Emirates, according to a US official.
If you're not traveling to these places you'll be okay...lets not get all Chicken Little about this...
In order to fly pretty much anywhere in East Africa or the Middle East you need to go through one of the airports mentioned.
johank
Established
The Democratic State in ME has has since long overcome that little problem, take a snap of the Celing in the Customs to proof that it is not a Bo-b.
valdas
Veteran
Ha! Does anyone really think TSA or airline/airport security will actually believe a film camera is not an electronic device - particularly if it has an exposure meter with a switch, e.g. Olympus OM, or a digital readout in the viewfinder? I'm not certain people in those jobs would understand the concept of a mechanical camera, or "film"!
pschauss
Well-known
There is talk of extending the ban on electronic devices to countries beyond the middle east. A major concern, however, is what to do about the lithium-ion batteries which will now be stowed in the hold.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-airlines-electronics-ban-idUSKBN1862QS
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-airlines-electronics-ban-idUSKBN1862QS
gnuyork
Well-known
On the flip side, I totally agree with TSA on this one...
Just got this article on my phone:
https://petapixel.com/2017/05/13/tsa-thinks-nikon-dslr-rig-looks-much-like-gun/
Just got this article on my phone:
https://petapixel.com/2017/05/13/tsa-thinks-nikon-dslr-rig-looks-much-like-gun/

jpa66
Jan as in "Jan and Dean"
Dear Phil,
Alternatively:
A: Go somewhere else
and/or
B: Don't go back...
It's worked for me since 2006, the last time I was in the USA.
Cheers,
R.
Unfortunately, Roger, a lot of us who want to go cannot.
Huss
Veteran
Of course this new safety regulation has experts say it makes things far less safe for us:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/23/laptop-ban-fire-plane-baggage-hold-trump.html
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/23/laptop-ban-fire-plane-baggage-hold-trump.html
peterm1
Veteran
Of course this new safety regulation has experts say it makes things far less safe for us:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/23/laptop-ban-fire-plane-baggage-hold-trump.html
Yes but of course it is all about appearances, not facts. I worked in the field of deregulation within government and found that trying to prevent new regulations and remove existing ones is like pushing a very large rock uphill. Every time something occurs - an accident or act of violence (it does not matter) it provides an opportunity for a politician to undertake an act of self aggrandizement and hyping the event for votes. They will invariably do so by passing a new regulation to show they have "fixed" the problem. So the politician gets votes and of course the public sector loves this too - more regulation means more regulators, more staff, bigger organisations, bigger budgets and bigger government. And bigger careers. Besides they know nothing else. As the old adage goes - "Give a man a hammer and every problem suddenly looks like a nail".
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
That was my thoughts as well Lynn ... they won't have the ability to distinguish between a camera that is mechanical over one that is electronic.
Nor will they trust your word. They have a book, it's called a Manual. It is everything......
Contarama
Well-known
The terrorists are succeeding. Bleeding everyone a little bit at a time. Of course their success must be assured so someone can keep making money off of security. Glad I'll be dead sooner rather than later because all of these games are ridiculous.
David Hughes
David Hughes
The terrorists are succeeding. Bleeding everyone a little bit at a time. Of course their success must be assured so someone can keep making money off of security. Glad I'll be dead sooner rather than later because all of these games are ridiculous.
Trouble is, a lot of the 'good' guys like throwing their weight about and having a good excuse to ban or control everything (except guns, of course). I reckon they need each other; I just wish they wouldn't drag us into their fights...
Regards, David
sanmich
Veteran
So, how does that work??
I already checked my luggage, I pass the security, and there, the lady tells me that my water bottle, the scissors my kid forgot in her bag, and my 10k$ of leica gear go to the garbage bin??
I already checked my luggage, I pass the security, and there, the lady tells me that my water bottle, the scissors my kid forgot in her bag, and my 10k$ of leica gear go to the garbage bin??
kuuan
loves old lenses
so from now on we have to check in the bombs hidden inside our cameras and use our handphones on board to trigger them?
Kent
Finally at home...
There have been news recently that other destinations also will be affected, not only the middle east... 
David Hughes
David Hughes
so from now on we have to check in the bombs hidden inside our cameras and use our handphones on board to trigger them?
And don't forget the hi-vis top with "TERRORIST" written on it and the target drawn over the heart.
Actually, it's not about terrorism but is part of the war on tourism...
Regards, David
Even now small things like pocket knives may be mailed to yourself from security, and "excess" carry-ons may be checked in at the gate... Gate-checking may be getting more common as the airlines run into limits on overhead bin storage.So, how does that work??
I already checked my luggage, I pass the security, and there, the lady tells me that my water bottle, the scissors my kid forgot in her bag, and my 10k$ of leica gear go to the garbage bin??
Huss
Veteran
Jet Blue just had a lap top fire on one of their flights.
Luckily the crew was able to put it out as it was in the cabin.
If it was in the cargo hold....
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/31/us/jetblue-flight-fire/
Luckily the crew was able to put it out as it was in the cabin.
If it was in the cargo hold....
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/31/us/jetblue-flight-fire/
maddoc
... likes film again.
One year ago the battery of my very old notebook (10 years at that time) all of a sudden heated extremely up after I connected it to the AC power and the charging process started. Removing the battery immediately prevented any possible disaster (luckily at home and not on board of any airplane).
Lithium batteries should not go into the cargo hold of airplanes, IMO.
Lithium batteries should not go into the cargo hold of airplanes, IMO.
Jet Blue just had a lap top fire on one of their flights.
Luckily the crew was able to put it out as it was in the cabin.
If it was in the cargo hold....
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/31/us/jetblue-flight-fire/
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