What's the best aperture for portraits?

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Hi, I know that "best" is a relative term. I've been taking some portraits lately and having trouble with manual focus. I get the eye in focus and then move slightly, or they move, and I suddenly have a sharp ear and blurry face. What are some techniques for taking portraits? I was using f2.8, but should I stick to f4 for close-up and lower-light portraiture? Thanks in advance for your advice---I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to say!

Maybe it is that I'm not used to a 90mm portrait lens but I never seemed to have trouble shooting portraits at f2 with my 50mm.
 
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Hello

I think you only should shoot wide open only if you want to blur the background because its disturbing.

If you shoot in front of a nice quiet background you can stop down (if you have enough light) and don't worry too much about focus.

The problem with the Leica is that you have to recompose after focusing and by that you are changing the plane of focus.

Keep on trying

Fabian
 
For close-ups the relative depth of field range is shorter at closer distances. If you or your subject are prone to move, stick with f5.6 or f8. You will still get out-of-focus areas because of the shallow DoF at close distances.

At 4 feet and f5.6 my 90mm summicron has about 1.5 inches in its hyperfocal range. That same range/aperture move up to almost 3 inches with the 50mm summilux.

Also remember that the DoF is shallower closer to the lens than away from it meaning you may have 1.5 inches of hyperfocal beyond the focus point but only 1 inch closer to the lens...
 
For a portrait session (as opposed to candids) I like to shoot at below... f4 at the most.

For candids I generally like to shoot more around the f8 mark, to give the shot some context.
 
This frustrates me too--with a 75 or 90 f2, shooting children who move constantly. Most shots are OOF. Stopping down significantly (f8-f16) usually means an ugly/busy background, but beter focused subjects. Pratice makes perfect. Keep plugging away, I am!
 
Thanks for the advice everyone.

Hmm, I have a DOF preview on my nice Canon lens. I've never really understood how it works though. It tends to just make everything darker.

Honestly, my Canon is great and I love the reliability of it. For a paying job I would reach for my DSLR. However, sometimes you need a pistol rather than a canon. As well, the Leica glass has something magical in the way it sees the world.
 
sirius said:
Hmm, I have a DOF preview on my nice Canon lens. I've never really understood how it works though. It tends to just make everything darker.

What it's doing is actually stopping down the lens to the selected aperture, so you can see where the focus falls. This, however, will make the viewfinder image darker by a corresponding number of stops. When not in preview mode, the viewfinder is always showing what the image looks like with the lens wide open.

On a bright day, go outside and focus on a nearby flower, then stop down the lens to f8 or f11 and preview the scene - you should see a change in focus in the background behind the flower.

Of course, this doesn't work with rangefinders. But its a good thing to see in person a few times, to get a feel for what's going on.
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As for what aperture for portraits - it really depends on what you want. I tend to like mine pretty wide open most of the time, but candids and environmental portraits, I like to stop down and let more of the surroundings into the image.

To get a similar range of DOF with the 90, as you are with the 50 at f2, you'll have to keep it around f4 (generally speaking). a 90 at f2 is much more narrow a DOF, than a wider lens.
 
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gregg said:
For close-ups the relative depth of field range is shorter at closer distances. If you or your subject are prone to move, stick with f5.6 or f8. You will still get out-of-focus areas because of the shallow DoF at close distances.

At 4 feet and f5.6 my 90mm summicron has about 1.5 inches in its hyperfocal range. That same range/aperture move up to almost 3 inches with the 50mm summilux.

Also remember that the DoF is shallower closer to the lens than away from it meaning you may have 1.5 inches of hyperfocal beyond the focus point but only 1 inch closer to the lens...

Is this really true? I thought DoF was symmetric around the point of best focus? At least, that's what the markings on the lens show.

/T
 
One relative advantage of using a longer lens, in the 90 to 105mm range, is that you can stop down to f/4 or so, keeping much of the face in focus, while still having a lot of soft focus for the background.

Very narrow depth-of-field portraits can be effective if you keep the nearest eye in focus. It's not easy, either with an RF or an SLR. With a rangefinder camera, "focus, then recompose" can be easier than with an SLR, because with a telephoto you're using a frameline in the center of the viewfinder -- for that reason, the focus patch takes up much more of the image than with, say, a 50 or 35mm lens.
 
Tuolume: yes, but notice how the distance markings space out more the closer your focus gets.

Thanks everyone, that's really great advice. I know these are just basic photography questions, but I'm still learning the craft. Everytime I start using a new focal length intensely there are new considerations that I discover. You should have seen my 28mm growing pains!!

And to all the "it depends what you want" answers, ha ha 😉 smart-alecs. Close-up candids with low-light (natural), all the things you turn to your rangefinder for.
 
Is this really true? I thought DoF was symmetric around the point of best focus? At least, that's what the markings on the lens show.

If you study the lens markings carefully, you'll see that the depth of field behind the point of focus is twice the distance as in front of the the point of focus. The depth of field markings on lenses show a scale with equidistant markings, but the feet/meter scale is geometric, not linear. In other words, lots of distance and lots of lens-barrel turn between three feet and five feet, but not much distance and not much barrel turn between 30 feet and 50 feet.
 
I find that an aperture of 4.0 works well for me with lenses having focal length 85mm-105mm. The background goes visibly to OOF at 4.0, while still getting a little more of the face to be in focus. You don't want the nose or the teeth to be soft while the eyes are sharp ...
 
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Generally, I prefer f/4.0. I dislike shooting wide open with the 90mm because it blows out the background. I prefer a soft background, but not blown out.

The films I use are 100/160/400. Its vital to keep up a fast speed to avoid camera shake so I'll take a light reading and use appropriate film.
 
One must first distinguish between formal and informal portraits.

Formal portraits are done with a tripod, and ideally, a remote shutter release. A camera that allows actual framing is useful. SLRs work well, as do larger format cameras with removable backs and ground glass for direct focus.

The aperture to use is of course up to the photographer. Typically, one tries only to keep the face in focus, with the area of sharpest focus being on the eyes or leading eye if the subject is sitting at an angle to the camera.

Aperture controls two things in these circumstances, depth-of-field and lens softness. Using aperture to control exposure is less of an issue in studio settings, where light and shutter speed are more-or-less in your control, so you can use the aperture you wish without regard to exposure (within the limits of the equipment you have).

DOF is controlled by the f-stop you select and the distance to the subject. You get less DOF (as mentioned by others in this thread) if you get closer to the subject. So you can decrease DOF as you like by either getting closer, or opening up the f-stop of your lens. Distance, of course, is also limited by the focal length of your lens.

As to softness, many top-notch lenses are nearly as good wide-open as they are stopped down, but overall, many portraitists prefer some softness. This accounts for the continuing popularity of older lenses, even uncoated or obsolete formula lenses in an effort to obtain a 'look' to a portrait that is more than just period costume and older lighting techniques.

No one can say what the 'best' aperture for portraits is, since that is down to personal taste, abilities, customer request, and so on. Wide open lenses are often preferred for portraits, because it de-emphasizes the background and places attention on the subject. Too much sharpness can bring unwanted attention to facial, er, problems shall we say, so that's another stroke for the open lens.

Now, as to informal portraits - or environmental portraits, or event photography where you try to get a photo of a face - there are different constraints.

A wider aperture is often preferred here too - also to isolate the subject from the background. However, a shallow depth-of-field can result in out-of-focus subjects, and that's not good either. I would also say that a rangefinder camera, as capable as it is, is not the best choice for these types of portraits either, if the subject is moving while you try to take photos. If they're willing to sit for you, then perhaps.

I'd like to refer you to some shots I took this weekend. There are some good and some not so good shots in there. However, I'd like to draw your attention to something that may help illustrate:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wigwam/sets/72157600377187355/

To begin, I used the 'auto' setting on my digital SLR. This resulted in two problems. One was overexposure, which I soon caught and fixed, but more importantly, since I was not trying to control my aperture, and it was a bright day, the camera selected apertures like f/8. With my long lens (70~210, which is multiplied by 1.5 on my DSLR), f/8 is not all that deep, but it was deep enough to create nicely focussed backgrounds as well as foregrounds. Very distracting. You can click on the photos below if you want to see them bigger.

See?



Now, later on I twigged to my mistake - yes, I make a lot of mistakes. I set my camera to Manual, metered the scene and and choose the fastest aperture I had on that lens - f/3.5 ~ f/5.6, with a matching shutter speed. Here's another example:



Notice the background. Nicely blown away into fuzziness. This is a function of the wider f-stop, and the dancer being closer to me physically. However, there is always a tradeoff. Notice that I did not get the focus totally dead-on. The subject's eyes are not the area of prime focus, and his leading hand is out of focus, since the DOF for this shot was probably about 1 foot or less. However, I consider it 'better' than the previous shot, less distracting from the main subject, and I like it.

Feel free to critique my ability at controlling my DOF - I know some of these shots are not great. But they work as exemplars of what did work and what worked kinda ok, and what worked well. This is my favorite shot of the set:



Notice on this one, the dancer was very close to me, I used the long end of my lens, and I had it as open as it would go for this focal length (f/5.6), so the background was very blown out. There are some slight distractions I could probably photoshop out, but this is a jpg photo, right out of the camera, no manipulation at all (they all are). If I were going to print this one, I'd ajust levels and clean it up some, but it is basically good to go as-is.

That's DOF control. How you like it is up to you, but that's how you do it.

Feel free to knock me around a bit - I'm cool with that.
 
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As to softness, many top-notch lenses are nearly as good wide-open as they are stopped down, but overall, many portraitists prefer some softness. This accounts for the continuing popularity of older lenses, even uncoated or obsolete formula lenses in an effort to obtain a 'look' to a portrait that is more than just period costume and older lighting techniques.

Bill has made some good points here. Many women and teenaged girls like the old-fashioned look of classic Hollywood-style portraits with a longish, wide-open lens in which only the closest eye is really in focus while everyhing else is soft... letting the skin go soft mitigates blemishes, beauty marks, etc.

I'm partial to wide-open portraits with an 85/90 f/2 lens. Focusing is critical, but the backgrounds can be lovely.

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If you are talking about photographing children _ I find that I am only able to 'reliably' shoot wide open with an SLR - still with a large number of OOF shots !

I like to blur the background usually - focusing attention on the subject. I guy the only time when I choose to add in the background is when is has someting to add to the shot.

To be honest as most of my portrait shooting is without flash I tend to use the fastest lens I can, usually wide open 🙂

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This was shot with a 50mm lens wide open at f1.4

Rangefinder shots are more of a challenge - it helps if the subject is restrained in some way!

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Leica Elmarit 90/2.8 at f4 - I choose this aperture to blur the background a bit.

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Leica Summicron Dual Range 50 / 2.0 shot wide open at f2
 
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VinceC said:
I'm partial to wide-open portraits with an 85/90 f/2 lens. Focusing is critical, but the backgrounds can be lovely.

I have to agree with that. So if you want an answer to "what's best" then that would be mine too. Wide open 75, 85 or 90.

I would also agree with the others who mentioned that a RF is not the "best" camera to do portraits with, especially not of children who would appear to have eaten half a pound of espresso beans. It can be done, but it's harder.

It might be worth looking for an online depth-of-field calculator. You'd be surprised how little there is at f/2 with a 90. With that little DOF, focus, recompose, shoot is guaranteed to get you OOF shots.

In the following picture the front eye is out of focus, but I still like it...

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/colinh/lea_2_1000.jpg.html

colin
 
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