What's the smallest M lens?

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Kenrockwell claims that the 28mm Elmarit-M asph is smallest.
but I find the 40mm Summicron-C that I borrow from md2008 could be even smaller. (what does C stand for?)
Is there something even smaller than that?
What's the smallest M lens to your knowledge?
It seems that the C Biogon 21/4.5 is Zeiss' smallest, but it's quite a bit bigger than Leica's smallest.
 
VC 21 or 25mm, or if you count in LTM -> M then nothing beat the 50/3.5 Elmar, it's probably ~1.5cm from the flange collapsed, ~ 4cm extended 😉
Will I get RF coupling on the 50/3.5 Elmar via an adapter?
If this is indeed the smallest, I think I will put it on my to-buy list
 
kenrockwell, a guy doesnt even know to develop his film,



perhaps C means compact.

for me the smallest relative to its opening/performace/design is the 35mm lux preasph.imho

vc25 and vc 21 are very much similar, is it the vc35 2.5 pancake smaller?
 
for me the smallest relative to its opening/performace/design is the 35mm lux preasph.imho

vc25 and vc 21 are very much similar, is it the vc35 2.5 pancake smaller?

The CV 35/2.5 PII (pancake) is a little smaller than the 35mm Summilux pre-ASPH but only a few mm. Had a photo for comparison but have to look for it...
 
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I wanted one of those Hologons so badly back in the early 70's but we had a new baby and the wife threatened to divorce me if I sold both cars to buy one itty-bitty little lens. I was just SO happy when I got a 15mm Heliar all those years later. It was a lot less expensive and faster too.
 
The CV 28 3.5 is smaller than the 21/25. Its their smallest lens and way smaller than a V4 cron etc (which is smaller than the 28 elmarit asph btw - Ken R is wrong is he says smalles ever - smallest in the current line up perhaps). As for Leica ever, I dont know.
 
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