What's up with Windows 10?

I've been a 8.1 and 10 user on the same laptop.
Windows 10 was rather nice but it booted slower than 8.1, then every once in a while it seemed fart up... Interface et al was quite nice.

Long story short, somehow my keyboard got a couple of keys stuck (I thought it was software related) and upon returning home I restored the PC... Which emerged back in 8.1. Thankfully, keyboard was fixed by guarantee and Win 8.1 eventually updated in the last month until recently I got back the "Update to 10 blip".
Knowing I have quite a few months until the upgrade is honored I'm not rushing to update it again. Given the little difference I might just stay in 8.1 anyways.


Got 7 on an older laptop at the living room and it's a great system. Both 8.1 and 10 I found weak in some points, not as solid as 7 or XP on its day.
 
Well, not to be contrarian but ...

I upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10, and the result has been an improvement in overall performance of my PC (programs load more quickly). I use a Dell XPS desktop that's about three years old and has a reasonably fast Intel processor. I continue to use Photoshop CS2 in Windows 10 w/out incident. Under Windows 10, the way the file architecture that was adopted in Windows 7 is displayed is messier, but I can still find my photo folders. This is important to me b/c I've got thousands of photos stored in various folders on the C: drive under the "Pictures" category.

In switching to Windows 10, the only glitch I encountered was that the short-cut for my Epson V500 scanner disappeared from the desktop, but I was able to put it back on the desktop w/out a lot of trouble.

I've been running Windows 10 now for about 3 weeks. Knock on wood, it's been OK.
 
One of the local post-production industry experts who worked in our company for several years gave up on Microsoft about five years ago.

It is not computer it is OS and software. Microsoft lost it reliability after Server 2008, Windows 7 and SQL 2008.
I'm installing same systems since 1998. In 2015 the amount of bugs, instability and other issues related to OS increased dramatically.
Even at home, we have Dell laptop with Win 8 with nothing else installed except anti-virus, fire-wall... Free offer came from MS to get Win 10. I agreed, but it failed, the MS OS products are so bad now it can't even do upgrade.
Now I have Win 8 laptop with HDD space getting eaten by MS OS. People complaining about this issue since 2013, but MS gives no crap.

No surprise why I still remember reading the interview in Helsinki newspaper with Linus Torvalds in nineties...
 
I'm sorry for everyone who can't deliver to customers because of upgrade to newer Windows. Operating system is as important component as computer hardware or as Lightroom version - none should be replaced without testing if one wants to be sure. This is why in environments willing to keep systems running pick identical or reasonably similar hardware and install new OS or new application to know if and how it works. Sometimes every single piece seems to be OK but together they wont work. Or what's worse - won't work properly just from time to time. Under specific conditions. Every other full moon. Once per quarter, but not at closing days. Trust me, you would never hit upgrade button again on your only computer you use to do work for customers, know you how it happens.

Photographers are OK with idea of backup body. You know now what I mean, right?
 
My experiences have been quite the opposite.

I took the opportunity to upgrade from 8.1 as I was having some random rebooting issues and since have had absolutely zero problems. I initially moved to 8.1 so that my desktop and Surface Pro had the same OS.

I have a i7 Quad core with 12gb of memory and a serious gaming video card (which usually gets an upgrade yearly). Since installing 10 my computer boots much quicker and general operation is faster. All peripherals work as designed including three older scanners (Scan Multipro, Canon FS2710 and Canon 9950F).

All existing programs also run just as well if not faster including MS Office (2016) and Adobe Creative Suite 5. I am a gaming nut and all my games are fine.

I have had PC's since 3.1 and remember writing boot disks to get around initial memory issues back in the day.

No problems here.

Cheers - John
 
I'm a long time Linux user but since I have an iPhone I dual boot Windows and Linux. I also prefer the software for my Epson scanner on Windows to the Linux version.

I got tired of the constant popups wanting me to upgrade to Win 10 so I did a bit of searching and found I could download the full version of Windows 10 for free since I had a valid key for Windows 7 and install from scratch so I went that route. I have had it for 2 months now and haven't had a single problem. Everything works as it is supposed to. Dual booting with Linux is also seamless. I have not found any problems with software compatibility either.

If you right-click on the start button you have the Windows 7 style start so it is very close to Windows 7.
 
I'm on Windows 8.1 and despite people complaining about it, I've been A-OK with the system. I hear Windows 10 has problems, including forced updates which automatically reboot your computer. No thanks.
 
I'm currently a Mac user.. But I've been a Windows and Linux user as well in the past. I moved totally to Mac when I retired. The one thing I learned no matter which OS (even Mac OS X), always test out a new OS upgrade on a external HD.

I typical clone my computer HD to an external HD. Then boot from that external HD. Run the upgrade install on the external HD. Play w/ the new OS for about a month or so, if everything is fine, u can either clone from the external HD or do another install.

Another approach I have used in the past before boot from USB was available was setting up a dual bootable partition. I would have my current stuff running on one and the other was reserved for the new OS upgrade.

It is definitely a lot more work, but I have been the victim of a bad upgrade from all three of them (Mac, Windows and Linux) before either because a critical program didn't work any longer or a HD driver wasn't support or just buggy new upgrade OS...

Gary
 
CliveC said:
I hear Windows 10 has problems, including forced updates which automatically reboot your computer. No thanks.
Click to expand...

While it is true that updates are automatic, automatic reboots are not. It still ask you for a reboot or you can schedule reboots.

There is always a lot of false information whenever any OS whether it be Windows, Mac, Linux, etc upgrades.
 
Win 10 works fine for me on my machines using the upgrade path from legit Win 7 software. Good luck to those having issues - can be very frustrating no matter what the OS.
 
I'd wait until SP3 comes out for Win 10 😀

Heck, I'm still on WinXP SP3, and by using a few choice apps it is a secure as Win7 or 8. My wife is on Win7 and I hate using it.
 
Best way is to get a extra hard drive and do a clean install. Keep the old one in case something does not work. Hard drives are cheap now. "Upgrades" over a current install are notoriously shaky.
 
btw that "update 10 blip" is not only thing that "patch" does. it also checks and downloads windows 10 installation files on background, so they are ready if user finally agrees, and says yes to the blip. so they consume HD space, even if user never plans to upgrade to 10.

if deleting those files, patch will download them again. so only way to permanently get rid of it all is to remove the patch altogether. google "delete KB3035583".
 
I've installed W10 on 3 machines so far.
-My custom-built PC, zero problems.
-My dad's PC (my former custom machine), problem with start menu at some point but fine now.
-My HP Pavilion 7 laptop - Super slow waking from sleep mode (driver issue), start menu disappeared (system restore).

The future-shock of transition from W7 to W10 is less horrible than W8 to W10 where you have to figure out where everything is again.

I've heard of people having driver troubles with their scanners, and Office needing to be re-activated, but no other particularly serious troubles.
 
Microsoft lost my support with the Windows 8 "upgrade" to Windows 8.1.

What absolute crap service.

I tried making the upgrade not once but perhaps 20 times over 2 years or more. Each time the download (2-3 gigs) goes fine then there is 15 -20 minutes of the PC fritzing about trying to install the upgrade then right at the end, it fails - every time. No explanation, no proper diagnostics, just a general error message. And a waste of time and downloads which on a limited contract is a PITA.

There is no explanation, or wizard, or diagnostic tool, or fix from Microsoft although scores of thousands of users apparently with the same problem. They just dont seem to care.

Lots of theories by various users (e.g. your system was not fully up to date with patches etc (untrue) but none of these has played out). Despite numerous searches of MS site there is nothing I can see that is a fix that works. In fact they seem to have washed their hands of the whole issue.

And here's the thing. You cannot upgrade to Windows 10 without first upgrading from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1. When I took my PC to a repair guy his suggestion was to blitz it and start again with a clean install of Windows 8 then go through the upgrade then reinstall all my apps. Why would I do that unless I absolutely have to? I have been through it before and it takes weeks of re-downloading and reinstalling of software to get back even close to where you were before. And for what - there is just no reason I would want to put myself through that voluntarily, either for Windows 8.1 or for Windows 10. Microsoft sucks and the only reason I have it is because quite a few applications I use need it.
 
I have mixed feelings with it.
On my old Dell latitude e4300 although it haD been installed without any problems, it eats up the battery a lot faster than Windows 7.
On my HP Pavilion x2 tablet, it works perfectly and its battery seems to last forever.
I am also a bit skeptical with that hardened internet integration, but it seems to be the shape of thinks to come.
 
Lots of moaning! <eye roll>

I've been a Windows user since the mid-90s and Windows 3.1, and am now using Windows 10 without a hitch after upgrading from Windows 7. Took a little while to get used to it - like moving to a new home! - but I'm happy: it's sleeker and snappier than Windows 7.

Before upgrading, I made sensible preparations: I checked that drivers were available (or a workaround) for all my hardware - no problems, not even for the decade-old Spyder2 monitor profiler or my even older (1997!) and trusty HP LaserJet printer! Ditto important software: I occasionally need to use Ventura 10, an ancient DTP program that came out 14 years ago - with a little tinkering during installation, it runs fine; even Vern 2, a little utility dating from 1998 I love performs without a hitch!

If Windows 10, your software or hardware isn't working properly, then the problem's likely not Windows but at your end: a broken Windows 7 resulting in a buggy update, or very old (i.e. incompatible) hardware or software.

Like its predecessors, the way Windows 10 works can be customised to your taste (much more so than OS X), so if you don't like something you can probably change it...

And what's wrong with auto-updates? Seems sensible to me. These aren't frivolous, and Windows updates fix bugs, improve features and sort out security flaws. Why wouldn't you not want that!? Hopefully, auto-updates will eventually mean fewer viruses and malware around to attack us because idiots haven't updated their computers! I've let Windows install updates for years - because it'd be stupid not to.

Case in point (and a warning to those still using Windows XP): Windows XP is obsolete - it came out in 2002, and Microsoft stopped support 2 years ago (including updates to fix security breaches). So, not only won't a lot of current programs and hardware work but you're far more likely to become infected with viruses and malware. It's no accident that of all the versions of Windows, XP is by far the most riddled with viruses and worms: in one recent instance, 50% of the computers powering a major attack were running XP (http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-xp-still-big-in-botnets-after-all-these-years/)!

Computers aren't like old cameras, to be cherished and handed on. They're disposable and have a use by date.

Go on, chuck that old system. It's gone crusty and is smelling a little ripe...!
 
Thanks to everyone for your input!

As I said, I am a photographer not a geek. If I can't get a reliable, easy to use program to do what I have been doing for decades, I will give up photography completely and start oil painting!😛

I have heard and read enough that W10 is NOT for me. Ever.

W7, I can probably live with a long time, and I have had no problems so far, except maybe the speakers and sub-woofer I plugged in but that was not even important. I have no desire to get into sound systems.

I reckon I can do what I need for a few years with what I have... I am keeping my old Dell with XP so all is not lost if I have a problem and with a Seagate backup, W7 should be enough. Thank goodness I did not go for the "upgrade by hitting the W10 button" promise of a better world!
 
I am very pleased I have not viewed a Microsoft OS or App screen for 16 years.

However, I also know the probability of being trashed by ransomware or other security flaws is much lower with Windows 10. The security improvements in 10 just makes 7 a more juicy target. XP is even more vulnerable despite it's steadily decreasing usage. Microsoft no longer issues security patched for Windows XP. If you use XP for photography and the computer is connected to the internet, back up your photo libraries/archives whenever they change. A close friend of mine lost all of their photos to ransomware last fall when their Windows XP computer was compromised with ransomware.
 
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