What's wrong with my Kiev??

mike goldberg said:
Hey friend Ruben,

If you sell some of the RF's you are not using, you might enjoy a Bessa :D
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Ciao, mike

Besides the highly traumatic experience of needing a perfectly working camera already sold, what keeps me out of the Bessa line, is not so much the funds, but design. In my twisted mind, much influenced by the Kiev RFs and Olympus SLRs, a rangefinder for me to be bought must be a quiet camera. The day such Bessa is out of factory, expect me at your home for funds.:D ..........

:bang: ????
 
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Thumbs up, again my friend.
BOTH the OM-1 & M-2 are, shh... quiet.

You have a lot of cameras [so do I]...
Keep the best; sell the rest, and
consider an M3 or M2. ;) mike
 
mike goldberg said:
.............Keep the best; sell the rest, and
consider an M3 or M2. ;) mike


Beyond the winding lever, not found at either the Contax or Kiev, or the brighter viewfinder with frame lines (but with smaller baselength than Contax or Kiev), this is what our Big Bartender has written about the M3/M2:

"Four of the most important new M3 features were 1) a combined rangefinder / viewfinder window 2) a single non-rotating shutter dial 3) a bayonet lens mount 4) easier film loading. Strangely enough, all of these features were already present in Leica's main pre-war competitor, the Zeiss Contax II of 1936 only 17 years before. Hmm. "

:angel:

Cheers,
Ruben

PS
Cosina Voightlander's Contax upgrade, the R2C offers even more features, as TTL metering. Unfortunately they too denied 2 highly desired features of the pre war Contax: the wide rangefinder baselenght and quiet shutter.

So we are left, by now with the new Zeiss Ikon, demmanding $2500 for a couple of bodies before lenses. "Hmm".
 
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A friendly message...

A friendly message...

So now, I understand you my friend. In my social work studies 'understand' sometimes meant 'standing under.' Before I bought my K4a, I did some Googling, and talked with Ruben. I also came across that 1936 date Re: the Zeiss/Contax plant. I think, when we last met, we talked about 1945, when the Russian trains from Dresden & Kiev, loaded with the Zeiss/Conatax tools & dies... and everything else they could carry, stretched for miles.

My K4a as an artifact, and I lucked out with the J8M 53/2 bought for $19-. The K4a is a 'kesher' or connection with my mother's parents, born in Kiev, whom I never knew. Except for a few small quirks, I really like the camera and intend to use it. I like the sound of the shutter at 1/50 & 1/25.
BTW: There were some small bits of specialized string in a plastic zip lock bag, that were inside the K2a. I'll return these next time we meet.

A question of logic is: Where/with what & in which direction do we build systems? With the K4a, I do not want to build yet another system. However, it will be fine for RF street shooting, since I don't have a 50 for the M2.

Speaking of GAS, I don't use my Nikon gear very much. Yet, I cannot think of much of anything I would sell! I noted that one guy in the forum who sold Nikon manual gear, got $35- for a 135/3.5... and $50- for a 35/2. Seems to me, that at those prices [despite the $ pinch], it pays to keep 'em.

In appreciation: Ruben, I've learned a lot with you. It began with the OM system, then last year you invited me to join RFF... with a warning: It's going to cost me money. :D I just got a Click-N-Ship notice from CQ with tracking number, that the CV 25/4 LTM+M Adapter+soft release have been shipped, so let's bless it on it's journey. This purchase means 'tightening my belt' some for a while; I do live on a retirement income. Yet, remembering that I started working by shoveling snow in Boston winters at age 12, there's a feeling of 'magiah li' here. In Yiddish, it's 'farginzah,' or "Enjoy it!"

And finally, wisdom from my father of blessed memory; in his day, the lawyers had to know Latin:
"Degustibus non es disputandem." That means, "B'ta'am u'vereah, ein l'kitvakeah... In English this is, "You cannot dispute taste." I guess that applies to all of us.
Ciao, mike
 
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