When Film RF, When Film SLR?

lawrence

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Like many on this forum I've got more cameras than I really need -- in 35mm film format, four rangefinders and five SLRs. The thing is that I often find it difficult to choose between RF and SLR so I'd be interested to hear from others with both types of film camera E.g. rangefinder for travel, SLR for portraiture and so on. Generally I only shoot film, so perhaps we can restrict this to film cameras only.
 
It depends on what I'm photographing and what lens I need to use:

SLR: Macro, telephoto and 20mm
XPAN: Panoramas
RF: Everything else

I use my RF kit probably 90% of the time. I keep my SLR gear for the occasions that I need it. I also keep this equipment because I will not part with it for pennies on the dollars of what I paid for it (I'm not much for being "bent over"). It makes no sense to me to give away perfectly good cameras and lenses for next to nothing because (supposedly) "nobody uses film cameras any more."
Yeah, bull***t. 🙄
 
SLR for close work,or lenses over 50mm. Rangefinder for 21mm-50mm.
But will use whichever I have at the time, if at all possible.
 
Assuming we want to be restricted to the 35mm format, without further complicating things with MF cameras, I find the following quite handy:
RF
1) A body for lenses wider than 21mm - I use ZI Wide. It has a double shoe to house both the external VF, AND a spirit level at the same time. A pity that CV never made a second run of their spirit levels, without the issue of alcohol evaporating. They were very handy, as you could frame and see the level at the same time.


20093901 by mfogiel, on Flickr

2) A body for lenses from 21 to 28mm. In my case, it is the Bessa R4A. I tend to use it with a 25 or 28mm and mainly for shooting from a 1,5 - 2,5 meter distance without looking into the VF, although some framed shots happen as well. An excellent tool: small, easy to carry, and which opens a whole world of visual possibilities.


20137703 by mfogiel, on Flickr

3) A body for the 35mm lens. I actually use two: An M7 0.58x with motor drive and a Summicron or Summaron for daylight:


20111709 by mfogiel, on Flickr

And a ZI with the 35/1.2 Nokton, for night shooting:


20128807 by mfogiel, on Flickr

Both cameras are also excellent one body solutions for travel, when space is at a premium.

4) A body for the 50mm lens. My grand favourite is an 0.85x M7 with 75mm frame removed, which I tend to use most often with a motor drive. This is by far my most used camera, and the one I would never like to part with. Thanks to Keith for selling me this one a few years ago. This camera with the "new" 50/2.8 Elmar M, should make part of every man's dress, just like pants ! 😀


20133911 by mfogiel, on Flickr

5) A body for 75-135mm lenses
I have bought an MP 0.85x, which also gets used for occasional portraiture with fast 50mm lenses, when I don't need to shoot in a hurry. I deem this camera unfit for street photography, but it's just me, and Roger will certainly disagree strongly. I use it with an old and heavy motor winder, for extra stability, and for avoiding to lose contact with the subject while shooting.


20123655 by mfogiel, on Flickr

6) A body for slow shooting, like landscape - I use an M4 with a set of matched lenses:


Slow_Food by mfogiel, on Flickr

for low contrast, high resolution, which is what I like in B&W.


20102202 by mfogiel, on Flickr

SLR
Here, things get a bit more complicated, because I keep certain bodies primarily because they match some lenses that I like, so let's try to rationalize this a bit. I use SLR's mainly for things I cannot do with a RF: tele, close up, portraiture with longer lenses, but also for anything, where precise framing is important, and for anything that requires fast autofocus. Generally, I do not use them with lenses shorter than 50mm, unless I want some particular feature, like autofocus, or extreme close ups with a wide angle.

1) A body for M42 lenses - I have a Spotmatic and and old Zenit, which came free, but in all honesty, a pentax MX or ME Super with the SLIM M42 adapter, that lets you keep the auto stop down and infinity focus is much more practical. There are several M42 lenses that stand out, and some of them are simply not available in any bayonet mount. A group of lenses I have been hunting down for some time includes the 58/2 Biotar, Helios 44-2, Takumar 58/2 and Primoplan 58/1.9. Yes, I am very fond of 58mm lenses - they are great for portraiture.


201213007 by mfogiel, on Flickr


2) A body for non AI Nikon lenses. There are several of these lenses, that still have strong merits: the 5.8cm/1.4, 85/1.8 105/2.5, 135/3.5 - early designs, often on the Sonnar optical scheme. An F2 with the plain prism is in my opinion the body of choice for these, which is what I use.


201212732 by mfogiel, on Flickr

3) A body for Zeiss ZF lenses. I chose the F3, because of the availability of many focusing screens, that let you match the lens to screen for optimum focus - important in close up, portraiture and tele alike.

4) A body for Leica R lenses - here, in my opinion, the most rational choice would be the Leica R4s, for its price, accuracy of focus with most lenses, good vf coverage and compact size, however the shutter lag drives me crazy, so when I cannot stand it any more, I pull out the Leicaflex SL2, which with some lenses is simply great.


20133331 by mfogiel, on Flickr

5) A body for autofocus shooting. I use the Nikon F100. As much as I would always prefer to focus manually, sometimes, there is a clear advantage in being able to shoot very fast.


20129820 by mfogiel, on Flickr

6) Bodies for special lenses. In my case, one of these lenses that are worth as much as the whole lens line, is the Rokkor PG 58/1.2. I keep a Minolta XD7 for it, and keep at swearing for the shutter lag it has.


201211501 by mfogiel, on Flickr
 
I can relate to that but somehow I keep thinking I need to be more rational 😕

Hi,

If it's a hobby rather than a job done to pay the mortgage etc, then why bother about being rational? Just enjoy the things. There's no rules about enjoyment apart from the Public Order Act and the 1968 Theft Act...

Regards, David
 
Like mfogel, there are some RF body/lens pairings that I prefer. M2 with 35 and 50, CL with 40 and 20, Hexar with 28.

With SLR's, pairings don't matter to me. I just choose the focal length I want and the body with the features I feel like. 20, 28, 35, and 50
 
"Have you tried the current Voigtlander 58mm? It has the electrical contacts and could work well with the F100, for example."
No, I had a look at some photos on the web, and the bokeh did not look as good as that of the old Topcon 58/1.4 this lens is based on. Now we have the new Nikon 58/1.4, but I have doubts, if at this price it delivers a reasonable value. As I grow old, I downrate excessive sharpness and upgrade micro contrast, what favours German glass.
 
Nice kit and photos Marek. I always like your posts. But I'm with Frank and go by mood. If I take out my Spotmatic with the 55 Takumar it's like a different world I'm seeing. I like that. Recently I'm out with a 28 most of the time on a Leica. Never thought I wanted a 28, and only used my OM2n with the 28 once.
 
RF when I think I can get away with a normal lens, non-critical framing and plenty of light so focussing isn't critical because I'll stop down enough. Anything else requires an slr.
 
For me it usually comes down to what I feel like carrying - my RF's are all fixed-lens and reasonably small, although some are heavy-ish. So if I'm in a "tuck it in a pocket or bag" mood - RF, usually. If I'm going out with specific goals in mind I would more frequently take an SLR, or an MF camera (or both).

I realize that doesn't make a lot of logical sense, so put me in the "go by mood" category I guess. I also like to rotate through different cameras rather than just sticking with one or two, but that's 100% fun-driven. 🙂
 
I prefer

- RF for: traveling (compact and light lenses and camera body; a screw mount Leica is much smaller that a Rentax Spotmatic F or a Canon F1), landscapes, available light, classic lenses (I only have vintage RF lenses)


- SLR: Macro work, lenses with 135 mm or more, open aperture, portrait work (if I do not use one of my TLR). I would like to have a 58 mm lens...

but it also depends on my current mood.
 
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