HMFriedman
Member
For the cost of a decent digital rig and the computer equipment needed to support it, you could buy a large freezer and stock it with enough film to keep you busy for a long, long time. Not only would you have piece of mind, but if enough of us did this, "they" would see their sales increase and thus have incentive to keep producing for even longer.
Don't worry, keep buying film and shooting with it.
Don't worry, keep buying film and shooting with it.
Chriscrawfordphoto
Real Men Shoot Film.
When they quit making tubes of oil paint....
Oh wait, they didn't quit. Even though painting ceased to be a large scale profession 150 yrs ago (before photography, large numbers of professional artists existed for painting portraits, illustrating advertisements, etc. Some of this work still exists, but not much). Today oil paint is made by large corporations like Crayola (they make Liquitex paint) and Rapidograph (big art suply company, makes Grumbacher paint, among other brands of art supplies). Its also made by very small companies who make it by hand the old fashioned way at prices that are really not all that high when one considers the cost of the pigments (can be very high depending on the color) and the work involved. All of you people running around screeching about the death of film need to get a life. Hell you can still buy Daguerrotype kits! That form of photography was obsoleted by technological changes 130 years ago!
Oh wait, they didn't quit. Even though painting ceased to be a large scale profession 150 yrs ago (before photography, large numbers of professional artists existed for painting portraits, illustrating advertisements, etc. Some of this work still exists, but not much). Today oil paint is made by large corporations like Crayola (they make Liquitex paint) and Rapidograph (big art suply company, makes Grumbacher paint, among other brands of art supplies). Its also made by very small companies who make it by hand the old fashioned way at prices that are really not all that high when one considers the cost of the pigments (can be very high depending on the color) and the work involved. All of you people running around screeching about the death of film need to get a life. Hell you can still buy Daguerrotype kits! That form of photography was obsoleted by technological changes 130 years ago!
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
Chris, it's the process of making 35mm film that is the problem. It doesn't lend itself to small scale production.
mfunnell
Shaken, so blurred
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan in accents most forlorn,
Outside the church, ere Mass began one frosty Sunday morn.
The congregation stood about coat-collars to the ears,
And talked of stock, and crops, and drought as it had done for years.
"It's looking crook," said Daniel Croke; "Bedad, it's cruke, me lad,
For never since the banks went broke has seasons been so bad."
"It's dry, all right," said young O'Neil, with which astute remark
He squatted down upon his heel and chewed a piece of bark.
And so around the chorus ran, "It's keepin' dry, no doubt."
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan, "Before the year is out."
"The crops are done; ye'll have your work to save one bag of grain;
From here way out to Back-o'-Bourke they're singin' out for rain.
"They're singin' out for rain," he said, "And all the tanks are dry."
The congregation scratched its head, and gazed around the sky.
"There won't be grass, in any case, enough to feed an ass;
There's not a blade on Casey's place as I came down to Mass."
"If rain don't come this month," said Dan, and cleared his throat to speak -
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan, "If rain don't come this week."
A heavy silence seemed to steal on all at this remark;
And each man squatted on his heel, and chewed a piece of bark.
"We want an inch of rain, we do, "O'Neil observed at last;
But Croke "maintained" we wanted two, to put the danger past.
"If we don't get three inches, man, or four to break this drought,
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan, "Before the year is out."
In God's good time down came the rain; and all the afternoon
On iron roof and window-pane it drummed a homely tune.
And through the night it pattered still, and lightsome, gladsome elves
On dripping spout and window-sill kept talking to themselves.
It pelted, pelted all day long, a-singing at its work,
Till every heart took up the song way out to Back-o'-Bourke.
And every creek a banker ran, and dams filled overtop;
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan, "If this rain doesn't stop."
And stop it did, in God's good time; and spring came in to fold
A mantle o'er the hills sublime of green and pink and gold.
And days went by on dancing feet, with harvest-hopes immense,
And laughing eyes beheld the wheat nid-nodding o'er the fence.
And, oh, the smiles on every face, as happy lad and lass
Through grass knee-deep on Casey's place went riding down to Mass.
While round the church in clothes genteel discoursed the men of mark,
And each man squatted on his heel, and chewed his piece of bark.
"There'll be bush-fires for sure, me man, there will, without a doubt;
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan, "Before the year is out."
- P. J. Hartigan (John O'Brien)
Outside the church, ere Mass began one frosty Sunday morn.
The congregation stood about coat-collars to the ears,
And talked of stock, and crops, and drought as it had done for years.
"It's looking crook," said Daniel Croke; "Bedad, it's cruke, me lad,
For never since the banks went broke has seasons been so bad."
"It's dry, all right," said young O'Neil, with which astute remark
He squatted down upon his heel and chewed a piece of bark.
And so around the chorus ran, "It's keepin' dry, no doubt."
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan, "Before the year is out."
"The crops are done; ye'll have your work to save one bag of grain;
From here way out to Back-o'-Bourke they're singin' out for rain.
"They're singin' out for rain," he said, "And all the tanks are dry."
The congregation scratched its head, and gazed around the sky.
"There won't be grass, in any case, enough to feed an ass;
There's not a blade on Casey's place as I came down to Mass."
"If rain don't come this month," said Dan, and cleared his throat to speak -
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan, "If rain don't come this week."
A heavy silence seemed to steal on all at this remark;
And each man squatted on his heel, and chewed a piece of bark.
"We want an inch of rain, we do, "O'Neil observed at last;
But Croke "maintained" we wanted two, to put the danger past.
"If we don't get three inches, man, or four to break this drought,
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan, "Before the year is out."
In God's good time down came the rain; and all the afternoon
On iron roof and window-pane it drummed a homely tune.
And through the night it pattered still, and lightsome, gladsome elves
On dripping spout and window-sill kept talking to themselves.
It pelted, pelted all day long, a-singing at its work,
Till every heart took up the song way out to Back-o'-Bourke.
And every creek a banker ran, and dams filled overtop;
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan, "If this rain doesn't stop."
And stop it did, in God's good time; and spring came in to fold
A mantle o'er the hills sublime of green and pink and gold.
And days went by on dancing feet, with harvest-hopes immense,
And laughing eyes beheld the wheat nid-nodding o'er the fence.
And, oh, the smiles on every face, as happy lad and lass
Through grass knee-deep on Casey's place went riding down to Mass.
While round the church in clothes genteel discoursed the men of mark,
And each man squatted on his heel, and chewed his piece of bark.
"There'll be bush-fires for sure, me man, there will, without a doubt;
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan, "Before the year is out."
- P. J. Hartigan (John O'Brien)
venchka
Veteran
Vacuum tubes are alive.
Vinyl recording sales increase as CD sales decline.
Wet plate photography has been used continuously since it's invention. As has Rodinal. Parts of 3 centuries so far.
I think we're good for the foreseeable future. Plus a little more.
Vinyl recording sales increase as CD sales decline.
Wet plate photography has been used continuously since it's invention. As has Rodinal. Parts of 3 centuries so far.
I think we're good for the foreseeable future. Plus a little more.
colyn
ישו משיח
They'll quit making film when the earth is vaporized by the gamma burst in about 2.5 billion years from now.. 
We'll never run out of oil. It will simply become pricier the rarer it gets.
And the pricier it gets, the more methods there will be to find it and produce it (methods that are not economical now.)
I predict we'll never run out of film either. Certainly not in my lifetime.
And the pricier it gets, the more methods there will be to find it and produce it (methods that are not economical now.)
I predict we'll never run out of film either.
Certainly not in my lifetime.Pickett Wilson
Veteran
But there is a high demand for oil. If only a tiny percentage of the population used it, there would be no incentive to find it, refine it, transport it and sale it.
MarkoKovacevic
Well-known
When that happens, i'll pick up a Digital M.
The show must go on.
The show must go on.
Hey, I guess I was right already: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/business/energy-environment/24oil.html
If it doesn't make sense for Fuji or Kodak to make film any longer, another company for whom it makes sense will do it. I'm not worried about that, I'll be dust when that happens.
If it doesn't make sense for Fuji or Kodak to make film any longer, another company for whom it makes sense will do it. I'm not worried about that, I'll be dust when that happens.
elshaneo
Panographer
hopefully by then, I would be a very old GrandPa
Beemermark
Veteran
BY the time film runs out (of my freezer) I'll be long dead. I leave it to my children to dispose of.
gdi
Veteran
On December 21, 2012 it will all be gone....
wgerrard
Veteran
Well, few of us would count the cost of a computer as part of the cost of going digital. We've been buying computers for years. Now, admittedly, if you want to print with digital, you need to buy an inkjet, whose purchase and recurring costs are very real.
I have to think that buying freezer-full stocks of film would provide a temporary bump in sales but I'm unsure of its long-term impact. For instance, if the purchases could be met from existing retail stocks, manufacturers might not boost production in response.
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Pickett Wilson
Veteran
If film sales would stabilize, it would be a little more reassuring. But at least Kodak's film sales continue to drop like a rock quarter after quarter.
SolaresLarrave
My M5s need red dots!
Why worry about what may or may not happen? Grab a camera, load it with film, go out and use it. Have fun, don't think about film in the future; enjoy it now. Fret over other, vastly more important things...
And take care of yourselves!
And take care of yourselves!
degruyl
Just this guy, you know?
People, you can still buy kodachrome. Now stop worrying so damn much.
I had this discussion two days ago: basically black and white will still be around. It is color that you have to worry about. That stuff goes bad pretty quick. If you have something you like, buy a bunch and freeze it.
35 mm is a loosing proposition anyway. Digital has almost overtaken film (although the look is completely different). At least with medium format, you can say that it will be a while before affordable equipment produces the same type of image resolution. Now everyone should run around and shoot medium format, so that I can be assured of a supply.
I had this discussion two days ago: basically black and white will still be around. It is color that you have to worry about. That stuff goes bad pretty quick. If you have something you like, buy a bunch and freeze it.
35 mm is a loosing proposition anyway. Digital has almost overtaken film (although the look is completely different). At least with medium format, you can say that it will be a while before affordable equipment produces the same type of image resolution. Now everyone should run around and shoot medium format, so that I can be assured of a supply.
Pickett Wilson
Veteran
"People, you can still buy kodachrome. Now stop worrying so damn much."
Where can you still buy kodachrome?
Where can you still buy kodachrome?
degruyl
Just this guy, you know?
I just saw someone selling a bunch. I have no idea where, but I saw it this week. I had no interest at all. (I did not say you would know the provenance, just that you could buy it).
bmattock
Veteran
Ah yes. There must be lots of it then, since you saw it somewhere, sold by someone, at some price, and a bunch of other stuff you can't recall right now.