Which Fixed Lens Camera has a Great Lens?

So what is the final summary of "great" camera with excellent fixed lenses? Maybe we should put together a list of some sort with advantages and disadvantages of these cameras (with market value).
 
Like a lot of others, bang for the buck goes to the Konica S2.
Brian posted some shots with an S2 wide open, well here is one where
it is stopped down to 5.6 or so.
 
My 2cents.

Konica III, sleeper camera with a razor for the lens. Learned how to shot with one years back.

Ricoh R1 has a great lens, mine it the floor when it jumped off the TV, I need to get it fixed. I have heard that all of the Ricoh Rs are great (35, 28, 21) and they have come out with a digital one that has me somewhat interested (but funds for fun are low). I'm not sold on auto everything, but it was a fun camera.

The Leica Minilux (not the zoom) is spoken of very highly on many leica boards that I have have read over the years.

You might try something like a Bessa L with a 25/4 on it. It looks so retro that (no RF, only a viewfinder) but it has a built in meter. Does not look auto everything in your face. Combine that with either an XA or perhaps better yet a Konica S3 (I think it has a fast 40mm on her) and you have a great combination. Small and a nice option of two focal lengths.

B2 (;->
 
BillBingham2 said:
My 2cents.

Konica III, sleeper camera with a razor for the lens. Learned how to shot with one years back.

Ricoh R1 has a great lens, mine it the floor when it jumped off the TV, I need to get it fixed. I have heard that all of the Ricoh Rs are great (35, 28, 21) and they have come out with a digital one that has me somewhat interested (but funds for fun are low). I'm not sold on auto everything, but it was a fun camera.

The Leica Minilux (not the zoom) is spoken of very highly on many leica boards that I have have read over the years.

You might try something like a Bessa L with a 25/4 on it. It looks so retro that (no RF, only a viewfinder) but it has a built in meter. Does not look auto everything in your face. Combine that with either an XA or perhaps better yet a Konica S3 (I think it has a fast 40mm on her) and you have a great combination. Small and a nice option of two focal lengths.

B2 (;->

Bill: I have the Konica II. Is there a major difference between the II and the III?
 
dnk512 said:
Raid, usualy s/he who asked the original question provides the group with a nice summary 😀

Dimitri: Your statement is true for most cases. I did not expect that many responses and I don't think that each response has comparable information, but overall there is eventually room for putting something together. I just don't see a useful summary at this stage. Maybe someone could provide a suggestion what could be done.
 
Contax T3 has a wonderful lens. Unfortunately the camera is broken due to a poor design in the film take-up spool. Still debating whether it's worth the jack to take to fix it, seeing as I have two other 35mm lenses.
 
I'll sum it up in my opinion. Take any lens and shoot it at an aperature range of f5.6 to f11 and you will be hard pressed to tell the difference between any of the above mentioned cameras. Just pick one, load some film in it, start shooting, and be happy!

Wayne
 
I was allways shooting with 35 mm cameras, and in fact the biggest perceivable dfferences I found were related to lens speed.
My first experience with fixed lens RFs dates back to 1966 with the Voigtländer Vitomatic IIB fiited with a Color Skopar 2.8/50. This lens was slow but sharp and contrasty, and the camera a small and heavy solid brass brick.

Of the few cameras I had later, my choice of lens performance is the Yashica E35 GS(T)N, which IMO is a bit better than the one in the Canonet QL17.
I´m waiting for the seals to dry to test the Mamiya SD 1.5 so I can compare with the other two.

Ernesto
 
I don't mean to rain on the parade, but I don't really understand the utility of a summary. There are way too many fixed lens cameras of a million different types to really categorize them. If you narrow the list to compact 35mm cameras or medium format folders or TLR's or true rangefinders you might narrow the list, but even then, how helpful is a simple list of "good" lenses? Anyway, I just think this sort of thing is better served by individual questions on the forum, or by websites like cameraquest which can give individual camera profiles and general recommendations.
 
The thread is informative as is. I am reading about some cameras and about what the users of these cameras have to say about it. Maybe I will be tempted to try one camera out that I do not own yet.
 
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