LeicaFoReVer
Addicted to Rangefinders
I obtained Sigma, this beautiful camera recently. I still can not believe how it gives images very similar to film, especially in black and white. And when iso is increased noise is very similar to grains in film. So lets play the game, which one of those images is from Sigma DP1 and which one is from my Leica M6 with a leica lens and kodak tri-x. Please dont use the exif info or other tricks 
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zvos1
Well-known
The photo on the right looks like it had some noise reduction done to it. I'd say photo on the left is Sigma.
porktaco
Well-known
left is film
wgerrard
Veteran
I have an M2 and a Sigma and I don't know.
Lots of variables potentially getting in the way, not the least of which is the scanning.
That said, I said the first image is from the Sigma.
Of course, the blurred leg movement in the second image might be due to using a slow shutter to compensate for the Sigma's almost certainly smaller wide open aperture than the Leica lens delivers.
Lots of variables potentially getting in the way, not the least of which is the scanning.
That said, I said the first image is from the Sigma.
Of course, the blurred leg movement in the second image might be due to using a slow shutter to compensate for the Sigma's almost certainly smaller wide open aperture than the Leica lens delivers.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I reckon left is film also ... it seems to have more detail in the highlights!
photokalia
Established
I'd guess the one on the left is the film, based on the highlight detail.
Alpacaman
keen bean
I think the one of the left is film, and the right is digital. I think the sky in the right one makes me think that.
filmfan
Well-known
I also say left is film, however one could post process the film file to look like digital in order to purposely throw people off.
Archlich
Well-known
Yes, small, blurry thumbnails with heavy JPEG compression losses
ebino
Well-known
the left is film because you obtained the sigma dp1 recently and the image on the left is watermarked 2009.
andrewteee
Established
If you like the Sigma grain then use SPP 3, not 4, because 4 automatically does too much noise reduction. A lot of folks were disappointed about this when 4 came out. SPP 3 for B&W work, and SPP4 for color.
But yes, the DPs are wonderful B&W cameras.
BTW I voted the left picture as the film image because it has that film look to my eyes that even Foveon can't quite accomplish.
But yes, the DPs are wonderful B&W cameras.
BTW I voted the left picture as the film image because it has that film look to my eyes that even Foveon can't quite accomplish.
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Darshan
Well-known
left is Sigma
tmfabian
I met a man once...
the left is film because you obtained the sigma dp1 recently and the image on the left is watermarked 2009.
fancy reasoning gets you a +1
astro8
Well-known
I think image 1 is from the Sigma
mbisc
Silver Halide User
Both are fuzzy pictures in difficult light situations -- and it's all in tiny jpgs -- why would anyone care?
Stuart John
Well-known
They are probably too small for anyone to really do much more than guess. I can't really guess which one is which.
jan normandale
Film is the other way
these are seriously bad photographs for this exercise. The images are small and degraded. C'mon, play fair.
Steve Karr
Film tank shaker
My deep powers of photographic vision say ... 2 is Digital.
coelacanth
Ride, dive, shoot.
I gotta say they are both digital (half kidding). Don't mean to dis digital b/w or anything. I think b/w from digital camera can be better looking than b/w film on computer screen quite often.
For these two, I think pictures have too much digital artifacts to evaluate.
I wonder if people can tell VERY well made inkjet b/w from well made darkroom printed b/w. (never tried the direct comparison myself)
For these two, I think pictures have too much digital artifacts to evaluate.
I wonder if people can tell VERY well made inkjet b/w from well made darkroom printed b/w. (never tried the direct comparison myself)
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Mister E
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The posted shots are too small for me to make any evaluation.
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