Sonnar2
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incl. caps and shade in a used, but not abused condition (Europe) ??
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cheers Frank
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cheers Frank
Which price for a 2/35 last non-ASPH. summicron?
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woffle
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Hi - I'm looking for a 2/35 also - depends where you're looking.
From dealers they seem to range from £500ish upwards depending on condition. On ebay from about £400ish from what I've seen. But that's only from a couple of days looking so I stand to be corrected if I'm way off...
The cheapest I know of off ebay is at a London dealer - cosmetically good, some cleaning marks apparently but they've put some film through it and nothing visible on the results. £390. And that would come with a 6 month guarantee.
If you're interested I'll PM you the details - it's not on their website - I only found out about it when I asked about trade-in values against some MF kit.
I'm trying to find an ASPH but it looks like I'm going to be at the wrong-end of £700...
Joe
From dealers they seem to range from £500ish upwards depending on condition. On ebay from about £400ish from what I've seen. But that's only from a couple of days looking so I stand to be corrected if I'm way off...
The cheapest I know of off ebay is at a London dealer - cosmetically good, some cleaning marks apparently but they've put some film through it and nothing visible on the results. £390. And that would come with a 6 month guarantee.
If you're interested I'll PM you the details - it's not on their website - I only found out about it when I asked about trade-in values against some MF kit.
I'm trying to find an ASPH but it looks like I'm going to be at the wrong-end of £700...
Joe
Crasis
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Sonnar2 said:
I got mine for 860$ US. A friend got his for about 880$ US. Both had mint condition glass.. pristine I'd say. Mine had a broken focusing tab and required repair, which was annoying.
It's a beautiful lens but it seems like quite a few RFF'ers consider it a waste of money. That's my warning to you. It might be a waste of money, who knows, but I really do love the lens.
By the way, mine was a CANADA lens, which is the same as the german lens but tends to go cheaper.
sleepyhead
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Hello, I've owned two of these lenses, one Canadian and one German. I couldn't tell any difference between them. I ended up selling both on Ebay - both went for about 420 GBP each, with original hood and caps. I sold them because their performance was excellent, equivalent to the 40mm M-Rokkor that I already owned, and which cost about one-third the price. I also found that I preferred the 40mm focal length to the 35mm. The M-Rokkor is very very hard to beat in terms of performance/price ratio.
Didier
"Deed"
At the auction site, a 2/35 M-Summicron 4th gen. starts at approx $750-800, mostly sells in the $800-900 range. Depends on the condition, cap(s), box and hood(s) included or not, and other factors. I have been offered a complete and mint sample recently for $1100.
I have noticed that north-american sellers often pay more for the Canada made 3rd gen. Summicron than the 4th. - don't know why. Collectors?
Didier
I have noticed that north-american sellers often pay more for the Canada made 3rd gen. Summicron than the 4th. - don't know why. Collectors?
Didier
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Magus
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David Murphy
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I sold one not too long ago for about $800 USD as I recall (maybe a tad less). It had some minor cleaning scratches.
pvenables
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Frank
I bought mine at Christmas time last year from a german dealer on ebay [canoshop, they were excellent, by the way]. It was mint, and cost about 750 euro, I think, including the proper rectangular lens hood. Mine vignettes badly at f2 and f2.8 when the hood and [B+W] UV filter are both fitted, which would annoy me terribly if I used the lens at those apertures, but I don't. Indeed, one might say that any "standard" lens that vignettes badly with a normal filter and the proper hood fitted at any aperture is really pants, especially if you paid 750 euro for it. I just can't be bothered to find out whether it's the filter, or hood, or indeed the lens that's at fault, as I hardly use it at f2 or f2.8 as explained above. I'll get round to it one day...
The suggestion of trying a 40mm is a good one. The 40mm's are much cheaper, as small [or smaller] physically than the Summicron, and not that much different in terms of angle of view. And the lugs of the lens hood don't get in the way of your fingers when you're changing the aperture. Perhaps someone could lend you one to try out...
Hope this helps you in some way.
Paul
I bought mine at Christmas time last year from a german dealer on ebay [canoshop, they were excellent, by the way]. It was mint, and cost about 750 euro, I think, including the proper rectangular lens hood. Mine vignettes badly at f2 and f2.8 when the hood and [B+W] UV filter are both fitted, which would annoy me terribly if I used the lens at those apertures, but I don't. Indeed, one might say that any "standard" lens that vignettes badly with a normal filter and the proper hood fitted at any aperture is really pants, especially if you paid 750 euro for it. I just can't be bothered to find out whether it's the filter, or hood, or indeed the lens that's at fault, as I hardly use it at f2 or f2.8 as explained above. I'll get round to it one day...
The suggestion of trying a 40mm is a good one. The 40mm's are much cheaper, as small [or smaller] physically than the Summicron, and not that much different in terms of angle of view. And the lugs of the lens hood don't get in the way of your fingers when you're changing the aperture. Perhaps someone could lend you one to try out...
Hope this helps you in some way.
Paul
Flyfisher Tom
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I've seen a wide range, from $800 to $1200, with the latter end a bit overpriced IMHO. But crazy things happen on Ebay when people get the bid frenzy.
I agree with Sleepyhead, the 40mm summicron-c/rokkor-m is hard to beat for a similar size, weight, sharpness, and bokeh lens.
The pre-asph certainly has its fans, and it is certainly an excellent lens, but as with all things, you need to wait for the right personal price. good luck
sleepyhead said:
I agree with Sleepyhead, the 40mm summicron-c/rokkor-m is hard to beat for a similar size, weight, sharpness, and bokeh lens.
The pre-asph certainly has its fans, and it is certainly an excellent lens, but as with all things, you need to wait for the right personal price. good luck
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Flyfisher Tom
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As you probably already know, Magus, I am a high contrast kind of guy. So I prefer the look of the 50/cron and 35/cron-asph already 🙂
And with some of the 4th pre-asph coming to the price of the cron-asph, I'd just as soon recommend the cron-asph, it is really a wonderful lens. 🙂
And with some of the 4th pre-asph coming to the price of the cron-asph, I'd just as soon recommend the cron-asph, it is really a wonderful lens. 🙂
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every time I see these prices I think I should sell mine. then reason takes hold and I am happy again.
telenous
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Sonnar2 said:
Hi Frank,
I bought mine, with hood, without cap, in mint(-ish) condition for £590 from a second-hand dealer in London. I resold it a couple of months later for £500. If you go for a user in good optical condition you shouldn't pay more than that, in fact I think prices around £450, or less (in the UK) is what you should expect. I 'm not sure about t the range of prices in Germany, I 've been surprised to see second-hand dealers selling in both higher and lower prices than what you 'see in the UK.
On the question of performance, the Summicron preasph. is obviously very good, but it never got me excited as other Leica lenses have. The size is very appealing and the oval aperture ring an improvement from the previous versions with the lever. From some rough and ready tests I did with it alongside the very first version of the Summilux (the one with the goggles for the M3), it seemed to me that any differences upwards f2.8 were really fine and the two lenses performed virtually indiscernibly, but truth be told, I 've never had the chance to use them concurrently in real life situations (as the one was coming in, the other was going out).
IMO the greatest selling point of the lens is the price, compared to Lux preasph, Cron asph, and Lux asph. And if you want one non-asph. Cron then the preasph. is preferable, as it is easier to handle and not that much more expensive from the other generations.
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Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Whenever you want to sell it, give me a ring. I'm looking for a pre-asph 35/2 too. The prices range from reasonable to insane. I got to see the Version IV in excellent condition. It's priced at $1400. Looks like the "Bokeh King" title make some people inflate the price.rover said:
It is a great lens Gabriel and those crazy prices are what is so tempting to me as a would be seller.
I do really like it though so I am not selling. If I could turn it into a 35 Summilux, maybe..... but I would have to think about that too.
I do really like it though so I am not selling. If I could turn it into a 35 Summilux, maybe..... but I would have to think about that too.
wintoid
Back to film
Hmm I paid £650 for mine from a dealer. I got the lens, front and rear caps, the hood and hood cap, and a leather Leica case but no box. 6 month warranty too. From the prices some are mentioning, perhaps I didn't do too well 🙁 If I'd known prices could be that low, I might have held on for a better deal.
I was thinking about trading up to a cron asph but if I've overpaid, I don't want to take the hit selling it 🙁 Oh well, it's a nice lens. I don't really *need* to get a cron asph I guess hehehe.
I was thinking about trading up to a cron asph but if I've overpaid, I don't want to take the hit selling it 🙁 Oh well, it's a nice lens. I don't really *need* to get a cron asph I guess hehehe.
Rico
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I have pre-ASPH versions IV and III. The IV is more expensive, has a nicer aperture ring, but a worse DOF scale. I get the same images (including bokeh) from both. On balance, I definitely prefer the III. ASPH rendition is very appealing to my eye (including bokeh), but I don't want the heft or DOF scale... or loose aperture ring. 🙂
Finally, the lens I'm using these days is the Summaron 35/2.8, and it might never end. True love!
For Frank: Mint IV ($1200), Ex IV ($900), Ex III ($700); approximately, of course.
Finally, the lens I'm using these days is the Summaron 35/2.8, and it might never end. True love!
For Frank: Mint IV ($1200), Ex IV ($900), Ex III ($700); approximately, of course.
pvenables
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Does anyone use anything other than the rectangular hood for their 35/2 ??. As I've mentioned before the hood annoys me a bit because the lugs get in the way of my fingers when changing aperture. I can't find a rectangular cap for the hood either.
Is there a decent 39mm thread round hood available with a cap ??. I don't mind if it hasn't got Leica stamped on it.
Any help would be appreciated.
Paul
Is there a decent 39mm thread round hood available with a cap ??. I don't mind if it hasn't got Leica stamped on it.
Any help would be appreciated.
Paul
Sonnar2
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Thanks so far. Some mentioned the Minolta Rokkor 2/40mm. Is this the same lens design than the 2/40 Summicron (Leica CL?)
cheers Frank
cheers Frank
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