squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Just curious, what's the current state of the art in software film grain emulation? I'm not just talking about adding noise to photos, but algorithms that actually try to replicate how grain behaves according to exposure, how it handles transitions, etc. I'm also curious if there are any grain emus that attempt to emulate the differing character of grain from film to film.
Please don't tell me to shoot film and scan it. I do that, too, often.
Please don't tell me to shoot film and scan it. I do that, too, often.
narsuitus
Well-known
Silver Efex Pro 2
kxl
Social Documentary
benmacphoto
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I'll second Eilver Efex Pro 2.
jbielikowski
Jan Bielikowski
next vote for SEP2.
and ACR is absolute garbage.
and ACR is absolute garbage.
cz23
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It looks unanimous. I'm a SEP2 user as well, but this week I've been testing DXO Filmpack 5 and I like it. The trial is worth a look.
John
John
jasonhupe
Established
Silver EFX
Silver EFX
Silver EFX Pro, love it.
Its early, just got a Fuji Xpro2, but I dare say I am truly in love with the camera and the files!
Silver EFX
Silver EFX Pro, love it.
Its early, just got a Fuji Xpro2, but I dare say I am truly in love with the camera and the files!
squirrel$$$bandit
Veteran
Thanks, all—can't beat the price! Is Color EFX Pro its equivalent for color, including grain?
Curious how you like the Acros simulation. I'm using an X-E2 for now but hope to get an XP2 one of these days...
Silver EFX Pro, love it.
Its early, just got a Fuji Xpro2, but I dare say I am truly in love with the camera and the files!
Curious how you like the Acros simulation. I'm using an X-E2 for now but hope to get an XP2 one of these days...
cz23
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Thanks, all—can't beat the price! Is Color EFX Pro its equivalent for color, including grain?...
Yes, Color Efex is the color counterpart. As I recall it has separate grain capability.
Funny, you mentioned "grain" and everyone assumed black and white.
John
Filzkoeter
stray animal
Capture One has by far the most realistic looking and behaving grain I've seen in an emulation.
5 different grain patterns, all are based on the tones in the picture and all are tweakable with sliders in "Impact" and "Granularity"
100% view:
5 different grain patterns, all are based on the tones in the picture and all are tweakable with sliders in "Impact" and "Granularity"
100% view:

tightsqueez
Well-known
Now that's pretty convincing. Thanks for showing that!
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I was just looking at the cost of capture one pro ... close to four hundred dollars AUD. 
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
The grain simulator in SPP (Sigma Photo Pro) has always impressed me ... at least as good as what silver efex offers in my opinion.
benlees
Well-known
I don't mind using SPP at all. Gives decent results and easy to use. I don't even know if ACR supports the Merrill DP's because I just clicked with SPP. Might not help if you use Fujis...
craygc
Well-known
It's obviously a personal thing, but some time back I did some comparisons in an attempt to determine a software and workflow I wanted for digital B&W conversions. The three tools I considered at the time were Photoshop's grain filter | Nik Sfx | DxO Labs Filmpack. My view at the time was that DxO Lab's Filmpack gave the best results (especially how it handled close to blown highlights). Even now, images I process through Nik Efx get grain subsequently applied with Filmpack. I do use Capture One (v9) as a RAW converter and DAM but have not made any comparisons with its grain engine, so no thoughts there.
shawn
Veteran
I like DXO Filmpack for post processing.
In camera Fuji's ACROS simulation works well. Control the amount of grain by changing your ISO.
Shawn
In camera Fuji's ACROS simulation works well. Control the amount of grain by changing your ISO.
Shawn
Peter Jennings
Well-known
The NIK software is now available for free from Google.
Peter Jennings
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user237428934
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I was just looking at the cost of capture one pro ... close to four hundred dollars AUD.![]()
But you don't buy it for the film grain. You buy it as a replacement for Lightroom with the much better raw processor.
Still a lot of money though.
user237428934
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Whenever I use a film simulation for a digital image, I dial the grain to almost 0 because I'm doing digital and don't want that stuff in my image.
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