Spider67
Well-known
and knows some of its quirks?
I have a Kiev 60 with me and the stats seem to be great:
- good shutter curtain
- the speeds are oK
- the 90/2,8 Volna lens has a minimum distance of 0.6 metres (!)
But! It's not possible to get off the lens! It seems to be jammed to the
bayonet. I have already rifled through the internet, but found no solution especially when it comes to taking down the Kievs frontplate and bayonet mount.
Does anybody know a quick fix or a better site?
Help's appreciated
Des
I have a Kiev 60 with me and the stats seem to be great:
- good shutter curtain
- the speeds are oK
- the 90/2,8 Volna lens has a minimum distance of 0.6 metres (!)
But! It's not possible to get off the lens! It seems to be jammed to the
bayonet. I have already rifled through the internet, but found no solution especially when it comes to taking down the Kievs frontplate and bayonet mount.
Does anybody know a quick fix or a better site?
Help's appreciated
Des
hans voralberg
Veteran
A bit of WD-40 ?
rbiemer
Unabashed Amateur
There is a grooved/ridged ring on the camera body just behind the base of the lens. You turn that to lock or unlock the lens. Clockwise to tighten, counterclockwise to loosen.
Here is a link to an on line English manual:
http://www.butkus.org/chinon/russian/kiev-60_dir/kiev-60_page1.htm
If you back track from that page, there are a German language version, and a PDF version--if you wanted to print it.
If you need actual disassembly info, I'm not able to be too helpful butyou can try here--this is a link to a parts catalog with good "exploded view" illustrations.:
http://kievaholic.com/katalogk60.html
And, one more link for you. Lots of good info, especially about service and repairs:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/kievreport/start
Hope this helps,
Rob
Here is a link to an on line English manual:
http://www.butkus.org/chinon/russian/kiev-60_dir/kiev-60_page1.htm
If you back track from that page, there are a German language version, and a PDF version--if you wanted to print it.
That's probably the worst camera service "tip" ever!
If you need actual disassembly info, I'm not able to be too helpful butyou can try here--this is a link to a parts catalog with good "exploded view" illustrations.:
http://kievaholic.com/katalogk60.html
And, one more link for you. Lots of good info, especially about service and repairs:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/kievreport/start
Hope this helps,
Rob
MaxElmar
Well-known
Kiev 60 - a great beach camera!
I'm sure you know this from what Rob said - you don't turn the lens - you turn the mount! (I think it's called a "breech mount" in canon-speak?)
Let us know how you're doing.
I'm sure you know this from what Rob said - you don't turn the lens - you turn the mount! (I think it's called a "breech mount" in canon-speak?)
Let us know how you're doing.
Spider67
Well-known
A beach camera? I see when skinny dipping I can easily hide my whole face behind that camera.
Thanks Chris. Yes the mount ring seems to be the root of the problem. It is easier to turn it counterclockwise the the other way around. Strangely when turned counterclockwise until the end I can not unlock the lens. Perhaps the ring was somehow bent so that the pin remains fixed by the ring although it's open.
I am just wondering if I should unscrew the ring if that would help or if I should prepare for a further dismantling
Thanks for the links Rob! Just been there!
Thanks Chris. Yes the mount ring seems to be the root of the problem. It is easier to turn it counterclockwise the the other way around. Strangely when turned counterclockwise until the end I can not unlock the lens. Perhaps the ring was somehow bent so that the pin remains fixed by the ring although it's open.
I am just wondering if I should unscrew the ring if that would help or if I should prepare for a further dismantling
Thanks for the links Rob! Just been there!
rbiemer
Unabashed Amateur
Des,
If I recall correctly, ther is a small screw in the locking ring that limits the travel--so you can't completely unscrew the ring, if you loosen or remove that small screw, you ought to be able to completely unscrew the breech lock ring. And then you should be able to get the lens off.
Happy to share my bookmarks in lieu of real skill!
Rob
If I recall correctly, ther is a small screw in the locking ring that limits the travel--so you can't completely unscrew the ring, if you loosen or remove that small screw, you ought to be able to completely unscrew the breech lock ring. And then you should be able to get the lens off.
Happy to share my bookmarks in lieu of real skill!
Rob
Spider67
Well-known
Hi there is the protocol of last nights ordeal:
I screwed ot the retaining screw of the locking ring...still the same thing.
The locking ring itself turns is as if I did not get out the screw. Its can not be moved forward and stays as it was.
So myabe the ring is deformed and has become oval so that it does not release the pin.
When I turn it on its extreme position counterclockwise and then turn the lens a bit then the locking ring also moves.
Seems as if the ring somehow catches the locking pin.
I have applied pressure to to the lens but it does not get seated.....
So fate wants me to learn a lesson: Always dismount the lens regardless of how many Kievs you chekced before.
So do I have to dismount the lens in pieces?
to be continued....(I live in the eigth floor and had the vision of a Kiev 60 taking a quick journey downwards....thatw as before I found the chisel...as I coud not find the hammer i went to bed.)
I screwed ot the retaining screw of the locking ring...still the same thing.
The locking ring itself turns is as if I did not get out the screw. Its can not be moved forward and stays as it was.
So myabe the ring is deformed and has become oval so that it does not release the pin.
When I turn it on its extreme position counterclockwise and then turn the lens a bit then the locking ring also moves.
Seems as if the ring somehow catches the locking pin.
I have applied pressure to to the lens but it does not get seated.....
So fate wants me to learn a lesson: Always dismount the lens regardless of how many Kievs you chekced before.
So do I have to dismount the lens in pieces?
to be continued....(I live in the eigth floor and had the vision of a Kiev 60 taking a quick journey downwards....thatw as before I found the chisel...as I coud not find the hammer i went to bed.)
Roger Vadim
Well-known
Kiev 60: unique camera with some rather horrible mechanical issues. On my 60 you have to wobble the lens a bit to unmount it, you need to develop some feeling for that.
Otherwise - if the lens stays on - just shoot with the beast, the pictures will be rewarding! Better one lens then no lens
Otherwise - if the lens stays on - just shoot with the beast, the pictures will be rewarding! Better one lens then no lens
Spider67
Well-known
.....Is on it's way to be repaired. When I finished wobbling I wanted to put it down my thumb got caught in the transport lever and......now there's more than just the lens to be repaired.
....But I met many sweet people on that journey! The Kiev 60 is a camera to remember!
Thanks again for your help (Beistand bis Beileid)
best regards from
Vienna
Des
....But I met many sweet people on that journey! The Kiev 60 is a camera to remember!
Thanks again for your help (Beistand bis Beileid)
best regards from
Vienna
Des
Livesteamer
Well-known
I am sorry to hear of your troubles. I have two Kiev 60's, one from Kiev USA and one direct from Russia. The Kiev USA one works well with all my lenses but the other one will not mount several lenses. Sloppy quality control, but once sorted out they can deliver great pictures for low cost. Good Luck, Joe