visiondr
cyclic iconoclast
...to elaborate; here's a recent pair of photos that are not really in focus and yet, I think convey "the moment" better than I ever have.
Please share your thoughts and your own out of focus, fuzzy, smeared gems.
Ron
Please share your thoughts and your own out of focus, fuzzy, smeared gems.
Ron
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Jon Claremont
pvdhaar
Peter
Your shot may not be sharp, but I think it IS in focus. There's just a lot of subject motion.. And that's why the shot works so well!visiondr said:...to elaborate; here's a recent photo that's not really in focus and yet, I think conveys "the moment" better than I ever have.
Please share your thoughts and your own out of focus, fuzzy, smeared gems.
Ron
The reverse (no subject motion, but focus off) would be an absolute no-no.
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
visiondr
cyclic iconoclast
Peter, I think you're probably right there. It is subject motion. My point is I think we sometimes get caught up in the notion of "perfection" in an image or absolute clarity. There are endless threads here and at other photography forums comparing this lens with that lens. I'll admit, all things being equal, I'd rather have the best tools available. But sometimes, none of that really matters at all.
Jon, That is just perfect!
Ron
Jon, That is just perfect!
Ron
physiognomy
Confirmed RF addict...
I've always liked this photo of my girlfriend taken with a QL17 GIII... The problem is that I focused on the food (typical!) & at f1.7 her face is slightly oof when the pic is shown at full size. More annoying is that at smaller sizes it looks fine...
Recently I've come back to play with it again & I felt a bit of overall softening helped some, but I don't really like the cheesy glow.
Peter

Recently I've come back to play with it again & I felt a bit of overall softening helped some, but I don't really like the cheesy glow.

Peter
nksyoon
Well-known
pvdhaar said:Your shot may not be sharp, but I think it IS in focus. There's just a lot of subject motion.. And that's why the shot works so well!
The reverse (no subject motion, but focus off) would be an absolute no-no.
How about something like this?

Doctor Zero
Established
Softness/motion blur - but good
Softness/motion blur - but good
I agree. I've attached a picture of my, er, well, I don't know. Her grandfather is my second cousin twice removed. I think. Whatever that makes her to me. But it's a great picture, I think even the father really liked it.
Doctor Zero
Softness/motion blur - but good
I agree. I've attached a picture of my, er, well, I don't know. Her grandfather is my second cousin twice removed. I think. Whatever that makes her to me. But it's a great picture, I think even the father really liked it.
Doctor Zero
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
Yes, we need deide on focus and on subject movement and on camera movement. We could talk about this lens being sharper than another lens but that is just technology and we need to undertsand how technoloogy affects art.
Puisin
shoots film and leaves
Hiyawaan
Particular Individual
No one ever said a "good" photo had to be in focus. Each picture has it own aesthetic requirements. What works for one picture doesn't necessarily work for another. Motion blur and out of focus are two different beasts. I guess what is important it that as the photographer it was your decision to choose that shutter speed/plain of focus point/movement of the camera etc.. Having said that, we must leave room for the "happy accidents" that some times give us shots we did not expect. Is the picture supposed to be an objective representation of what was there or a subjective interpretation. It all depends. My 2 cents, fueled by too much coffee.
Gid
Well-known
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Ron: What cracks me up about this is that the original post comes from an optometrist! Sorta makes all your work superfluous I guess! 
Peter: I think you have a bigger problem than focus. If you are focusing on the food and not your girlfriend, then son, you have an "interesting" life ahead of you.
Here's one of mine. Any unsharpness is totally due to low light, and has nothing to do with Guinness.
Peter: I think you have a bigger problem than focus. If you are focusing on the food and not your girlfriend, then son, you have an "interesting" life ahead of you.
Here's one of mine. Any unsharpness is totally due to low light, and has nothing to do with Guinness.

pvdhaar
Peter
Nah, you're trying to trick me into admitting I'm wrong..nksyoon said:How about something like this?
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Yours is perfectly focused where you wanted the focus to be.. And by Jove, what a fantastic bokeh does it have!
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
wintoid
Back to film
trittium
Well-known
I have an out of focus Bokeh group on my flickr. If you want to see them go here
http://flickr.com/photos/trittium/sets/72157594424764803/
http://flickr.com/photos/trittium/sets/72157594424764803/
35mmdelux
Veni, vidi, vici
visiondr said:...to elaborate; here's a recent pair of photos that are not really in focus and yet, I think conveys "the moment" better than I ever have.
Please share your thoughts and your own out of focus, fuzzy, smeared gems.
Ron
No problem with it. Look up the OOF master, Victor SKREBNESKI. Rock your world!
dazedgonebye
Veteran
It was always my impression that if an image were sharp and in focus with no motion blur, then it was very unlikely to be considered "art."
If there happens to be a recognizable subject then it's doubly damned.
If there happens to be a recognizable subject then it's doubly damned.
dadsm3
Well-known
Pherd, is it because you didn't want anyone to see your girlfriend's bum cleavage?
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