Michael Markey
Veteran
I`ve not found it so .
kuzano
Veteran
And THANK YOU....
And THANK YOU....
And THANK YOU... for Scarlett. Nice!
And THANK YOU....
Thanks for such a funny post
And THANK YOU... for Scarlett. Nice!
BillBingham2
Registered User
My shinny headed friend......
First off we have better cookies than any of the other P&S cameras (secret recipe on page 22 1/8 of each manual).
I've owned an R-1 (the film camera that started the line years back), GRD-I, GX-100 (kissing cousin with like handling and a zoom lens) and now a GRD-III.
While user-interface (the way the controls work and can be configured to work) has been touted as one of it's best features it's closely followed by the build quality. I would not call it heavy but rather solid. If can be carried with ease in any of my pants pockets and even in a dress shirt pocket. The control-ability of the GRD is simple. Not so easy that you loose access to important features, but elegant and configurable to each user. I may think that ISO is the most important feature that I change most often, I can make that the first item of four in my easy access list that I control through the wheel on the back.
I really like the hotshoe on the top. It allows me to use a black metal CV bright line finder for times I do not want to use the LCD in the back. Having used LF cameras with ground glass and a few with viewfinders I have a hard time accepting chimping. I look at it as using an expensive fancy small ground glass. It makes the camera function very well is all sorts of cold and get some very unusual looks.
Some people really push the edges in IQ, right now I don't. I was happy with my GRD I and now I'm even happier with the GRD III.
Why is there a cult, you need to pick one up and hold it. When I picked up an M for the first time it felt like a solid camera, sturdy without being too heavy. The GRD line feels the same to me. Not the same as an M, but damn sturdy for a P&S digital. It has a feel that it should cost half again or twice as much.
Ricoh has not taken the GRD line down the path with the feature of the month club that Canon, Nikon and others have. They have another line for that. There seems to be a serious group of folks somewhere deep within Ricoh that love photography and make products for the rest-of-us (old Apple Computer Reference, no I do not own Burkinstocks, I wear Crocks!).
I too have been thinking about building a flash adapter for my GRD but as work has not been stable there hasn't been time.
Do you need the image stabilization, I don't know. I'm kind of a purest geek and would rather use my skills to get a good shot. I know too much about programing and wonder what compromises are being made in the algorithms.
As I mentioned above, I’ve had a GX-100 and it’s close to as good handling that is the GRD series. It was my family carry camera as having a zoom was fun handy. It is a well thought out camera, just a tiny bit bigger than the GRD. Same battery that if you have both is handy.
I have to admit that I never really warmed up to 28mm till I got the GRD I. Rather a strange the same thing happened with a 50mm and the Nikon S2. The Ricoh glass is REALLY REALLY good stuff.
Speaking of algorithms, I'm not sure if Apple has OS support throughout their software. I've never seen Ricoh on any list as supported, though I can see my RAW shots fine on my MacMini.
If you lived near by I would bring mine over for you to play with. You can rent them from PopFlashPhoto. It might be the only way for folks like us (who do not live in NYC or LA) to hold one and try it. Tony is a great guy, I've purchased both my GRDs from him.
I believe that Ricoh just purchased Pentax Imaging Systems and so I’m waiting to see if they come out with next. They have access to some lens mounts that have TONS of “older” but great glass for it. They have the Leica M mount module that is producing some world class results out so there is hope that they can do the Pentax family of mounts and then perhaps move to others (Nikon F, Olympus and Canon). I have not tried the GXM system, for what I am shooting these days the GRD suits me fine.
I should take a shoot of my GRD III next to my wife’s old Kodak Pocket 20, they are pretty close in size.
Hope all is well. And yes, the taste of our cookies is much better than the others.
B2 (;->
First off we have better cookies than any of the other P&S cameras (secret recipe on page 22 1/8 of each manual).
I've owned an R-1 (the film camera that started the line years back), GRD-I, GX-100 (kissing cousin with like handling and a zoom lens) and now a GRD-III.
While user-interface (the way the controls work and can be configured to work) has been touted as one of it's best features it's closely followed by the build quality. I would not call it heavy but rather solid. If can be carried with ease in any of my pants pockets and even in a dress shirt pocket. The control-ability of the GRD is simple. Not so easy that you loose access to important features, but elegant and configurable to each user. I may think that ISO is the most important feature that I change most often, I can make that the first item of four in my easy access list that I control through the wheel on the back.
I really like the hotshoe on the top. It allows me to use a black metal CV bright line finder for times I do not want to use the LCD in the back. Having used LF cameras with ground glass and a few with viewfinders I have a hard time accepting chimping. I look at it as using an expensive fancy small ground glass. It makes the camera function very well is all sorts of cold and get some very unusual looks.
Some people really push the edges in IQ, right now I don't. I was happy with my GRD I and now I'm even happier with the GRD III.
Why is there a cult, you need to pick one up and hold it. When I picked up an M for the first time it felt like a solid camera, sturdy without being too heavy. The GRD line feels the same to me. Not the same as an M, but damn sturdy for a P&S digital. It has a feel that it should cost half again or twice as much.
Ricoh has not taken the GRD line down the path with the feature of the month club that Canon, Nikon and others have. They have another line for that. There seems to be a serious group of folks somewhere deep within Ricoh that love photography and make products for the rest-of-us (old Apple Computer Reference, no I do not own Burkinstocks, I wear Crocks!).
I too have been thinking about building a flash adapter for my GRD but as work has not been stable there hasn't been time.
Do you need the image stabilization, I don't know. I'm kind of a purest geek and would rather use my skills to get a good shot. I know too much about programing and wonder what compromises are being made in the algorithms.
As I mentioned above, I’ve had a GX-100 and it’s close to as good handling that is the GRD series. It was my family carry camera as having a zoom was fun handy. It is a well thought out camera, just a tiny bit bigger than the GRD. Same battery that if you have both is handy.
I have to admit that I never really warmed up to 28mm till I got the GRD I. Rather a strange the same thing happened with a 50mm and the Nikon S2. The Ricoh glass is REALLY REALLY good stuff.
Speaking of algorithms, I'm not sure if Apple has OS support throughout their software. I've never seen Ricoh on any list as supported, though I can see my RAW shots fine on my MacMini.
If you lived near by I would bring mine over for you to play with. You can rent them from PopFlashPhoto. It might be the only way for folks like us (who do not live in NYC or LA) to hold one and try it. Tony is a great guy, I've purchased both my GRDs from him.
I believe that Ricoh just purchased Pentax Imaging Systems and so I’m waiting to see if they come out with next. They have access to some lens mounts that have TONS of “older” but great glass for it. They have the Leica M mount module that is producing some world class results out so there is hope that they can do the Pentax family of mounts and then perhaps move to others (Nikon F, Olympus and Canon). I have not tried the GXM system, for what I am shooting these days the GRD suits me fine.
I should take a shoot of my GRD III next to my wife’s old Kodak Pocket 20, they are pretty close in size.
Hope all is well. And yes, the taste of our cookies is much better than the others.
B2 (;->
My GRD I developed the lens fault issue. So I threw it out. But when I had it I loved it. I have been thinking about perhaps buying a GRDIII again, and hopefully they have fixed some things.
paulfish4570
Veteran
Bill, thanks for that in-depth comment.
v_roma
Well-known
Not to side-track this post, but does anyone find that the pictures in the GRD3 LCD look uninspiring? It's usually the other way around with other cameras (because you're looking at a post-processed photo on a small screen) but, with the GRD3, for some reason, they don't look all that good to me. I have to keep reminding myself it will look better on the screen or printed. Is it just me?
BillBingham2
Registered User
I used it for composition and let the histogram tell me about exposure.
B2
B2
39per1
Established
I agree, they are oversharpened IMHO, as You used a too heavy sharpenig-mask in photoshop .....so I use it only to check focus in review, for all the rest I took the viewfinder 21/28....
The feeling of the whole operation of taking a pic is the closest thing to taking a pic with a film camera I've ever done......
PS: as usual, hope my english is good enough to explain what I mean....
__--
Well-known
In the Point-N-Shoot Forum on RFF there is a thread for GRD pictures, of which the first two or three pages of which are outstanding. In "response" someone started a similar thread for Leica M8/M9 pictures on the LUF — but the pictures there were largely pedestrian and the thread soon petered out. What does this say about the GRD-GRD3 cameras? Looks like they attract relatively good photographers, the reasons for which have, I think, already been well enumerated in this thread.
—Mitch/Manila
Paris au rythme de Basquiat
—Mitch/Manila
Paris au rythme de Basquiat
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