Why fuji 'gets it' with the X series

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I'm liking that they are not looking to 'mainstream' this camera. The XP1 appears to be aimed at folks who want high quality, small prime lenses. Out of the 10 lenses on the road map 7 are primes. Fuji appears to be targeting a demographic that has not been served. I already have the fine 50mm and that 14mm/27mm/56mm group is a solid prime kit for those folks that don't like the SLR form factor. I love the 23mm and it's FOV so I may end up with 5 of these if they have any promise. 🙄

The zooms, 'meh' and are unlikely to spark much interest except with the enthusiast. I'm not sure zooms are going to work well with this version of the camera. Fuji has hinted at them being relegated to the EVF. I've also heard them indicate that to use the OVF you would set the lens length in the menu (meaning for every focal length) and then take photos which seemed very cumbersome. I'm not sure they settled on a method until late in the design process. I betcha that means folks will have 'issues' with the implementation.

It appears (at least from the rumor mill) that Fuji will produce a consumer version of the X-Pro1. This camera will have not have the hybrid viewfinder but an EVF and LCD, maybe some sort of image stabilization in the body, a built-in flash and the 18-55mm as the kit lens.

I'm not sure there will be an X200 yet, (the enthusiast version of the XP1 will be first) though when it does come it will probably be an evolutionary product. They will move the buttons around and improve the operation, make software changes and put the x-tran sensor in it. Will they change the lens is the question - maybe a fast 35mm.
 
intheviewfinder said:
It appears (at least from the rumor mill) that Fuji will produce a consumer version of the X-Pro1. This camera will have not have the hybrid viewfinder but an EVF and LCD, maybe some sort of image stabilization in the body, a built-in flash and the 18-55mm as the kit lens.

I'm not sure there will be an X200 yet, (the enthusiast version of the XP1 will be first) though when it does come it will probably be an evolutionary product. They will move the buttons around and improve the operation, make software changes and put the x-tran sensor in it. Will they change the lens is the question - maybe a fast 35mm.
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How do you know this intheviewfinder?
 
I think the 15-35/4.0 zoom will sell a great deal - I bought the X-Pro1 for its primes, but intend to also use it as a back-up for my FF camera - and using the zoom on a tripod with the LCD would be great for landscape photography. After all, primes are great for handheld photography, where framing is not always critical, whereas landscape demands perfect composition - and to get that you first get your perspective by placing yourself relative to the subjects, then do the framing with a zoom! But maybe I am to enthusiastic...

intheviewfinder said:
The zooms, 'meh' and are unlikely to spark much interest except with the enthusiast. I'm not sure zooms are going to work well with this version of the camera. Fuji has hinted at them being relegated to the EVF. I've also heard them indicate that to use the OVF you would set the lens length in the menu (meaning for every focal length) and then take photos which seemed very cumbersome. I'm not sure they settled on a method until late in the design process. I betcha that means folks will have 'issues' with the implementation.
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jsrockit said:
How do you know this intheviewfinder?
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Listen to what the Fuji reps are saying at the shows and what managment has been saying in interviews you can get the jist of their direction. Plus as I said [careful editing of] the rumor mill.

Rossou said:
I think the 15-35/4.0 zoom will sell a great deal.
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It may, and I could be totally wrong, but they'll need to nail the implementation. I'm not so sure it will work well with the current software.
 
Rossou said:
I think the 15-35/4.0 zoom will sell a great deal - I bought the X-Pro1 for its primes, but intend to also use it as a back-up for my FF camera - and using the zoom on a tripod with the LCD would be great for landscape photography. After all, primes are great for handheld photography, where framing is not always critical, whereas landscape demands perfect composition - and to get that you first get your perspective by placing yourself relative to the subjects, then do the framing with a zoom! But maybe I am to enthusiastic...
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Well, that's one way to do landscape photography. But some pretty famous landscape photographers (e.g., A. Adams) managed to work without zoom lenses.

Fuji's announced zooms don't appeal to me --- but that's just me.
 
Rossou said:
After all, primes are great for handheld photography, where framing is not always critical, whereas landscape demands perfect composition - and to get that you first get your perspective by placing yourself relative to the subjects, then do the framing with a zoom! But maybe I am to enthusiastic...
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Not so sure this is true for everyone... especially on this site. 😀
 
Spanik said:
Because Fuji has a long camera tradition and Sony is high volume consumer oriented.
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That's ridiculous. Sony has been making digital camera longer than anyone. I run a Fuji and Sony side by side, and, trust me, there are really smart and really stupid things about both.
 
JRG said:
Well, that's one way to do landscape photography. But some pretty famous landscape photographers (e.g., A. Adams) managed to work without zoom lenses.
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I'm told by a reliable source that Adams's view cameras were set up so that the tilt movements could be set only in 15° increments. Apparently, he viewed the continuously-variable tilt settings available on most cameras as mere concessions to the feeble and weak-minded.
 
semilog said:
I'm told by a reliable source that Adams's view cameras were set up so that the tilt movements could be set only in 15° increments. Apparently, he viewed the continuously-variable tilt settings available on most cameras as mere concessions to the feeble and weak-minded.
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This sounds improbable, 15° of tilt is a LOT.
I rarely use more than 5-6°, and mostly 2-3°, and that is usually enough to get everything in focus from the horizon to within inches of the camera.
 
I was joking -- making fun of the idea that if today's superb zooms had existed when Adams had been working, he would have eschewed them. I'm certain that he would have used them; he was a technophile through and through.
 
semilog said:
I was joking -- making fun of the idea that if today's superb zooms had existed when Adams had been working, he would have eschewed them. I'm certain that he would have used them; he was a technophile through and through.
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This argument that something is unneccessary because it was unavailable at some point in the past is an immortal classic... "Napoleon's soldiers walked all the way to Moscow on foot, so no Frenchman today needs a car", or "There were no kidney transplants in Jesus' time so we shouldn't do them either".
 
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