If anything- a Leica M9 will hold more value after 5 years than any of the competition's 5 year old cameras. There gets to be a certain point in technology that is "good Enough" and buying something new- is just to own new. I use Office 2000 for all of my professional presentations. Upgrading to 2007 or 2010- whizzbang features such as embedded video, unnecessary wastes of my time. And the new interface is not intuitive.
Advances in digital imaging technology at this point is more likely to affect size and power consumption. Gains in sensitivity, mostly through signal processing for noise reduction. If we get sensors the thickness of film and with integral electronic shutters, we'll be able to get a Digital Barnack. Some might sell there 10 year old M9 to get one.
Advances in digital imaging technology at this point is more likely to affect size and power consumption. Gains in sensitivity, mostly through signal processing for noise reduction. If we get sensors the thickness of film and with integral electronic shutters, we'll be able to get a Digital Barnack. Some might sell there 10 year old M9 to get one.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
If anything- a Leica M9 will hold more value after 5 years than any of the competition's 5 year old cameras. There gets to be a certain point in technology that is "good Enough" and buying something new- is just to own new. I use Office 2000 for all of my professional presentations. Upgrading to 2007 or 2010- whizzbang features such as embedded video, unnecessary wastes of my time. And the new interface is not intuitive.
Dear Brian,
Quite, but there's little hope of persuading a certain kind of technophile that anything more than 5 years old will continue to do what it always did, as well as it always did, until it breaks or (assuming it can be reached for servicing) until it can no longer be repaired.
Anyone who cares to Google 'Voyager' (launched 1977, and not serviced since) and 'Discovery' (first launched 1984) will find that the former is still working and that the latter has just been retired.
Cheers,
R.
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Unless you work with embedded processors, most people do not realize that the Intel 8051 is still going strong. Everyone keeps up with multi-processor, 64-bit cores with more Level-1 cache than most 8-bit processors can address. The Intel 8051 came out ~30 years ago.
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/8051/
More systems are running with "obsolete" digital technology than "state-of-the-art".
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/8051/
More systems are running with "obsolete" digital technology than "state-of-the-art".
MCTuomey
Veteran
Looks the OP is selling his M9 pretty quickly after the purchase:
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/pho...title/leica-m9-with-several-accessories/cat/3
Something didn't impress ...
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/pho...title/leica-m9-with-several-accessories/cat/3
Something didn't impress ...
John Robertson
Well-known
As they say "only time will tell "Dear Brian,
Quite, but there's little hope of persuading a certain kind of technophile that anything more than 5 years old will continue to do what it always did, as well as it always did, until it breaks or (assuming it can be reached for servicing) until it can no longer be repaired.
Anyone who cares to Google 'Voyager' (launched 1977, and not serviced since) and 'Discovery' (first launched 1984) will find that the former is still working and that the latter has just been retired.
Cheers,
R.
Gary Sandhu
Well-known
I sold mine. I found that a 28 cron on my M8 accomplished everything I wanted. First, though, I tested all my lenses. I'm going to wait for the M10 which will hopefully be faster, lighter, better sealed, quieter, and with better battery life.
menos
Veteran
Felix.
I ordered an M9 in December 2009. It took 6 months to arrive. In that time I lurked on all the relavant formums sponing up information. I was very concerned (and pissed off because I already had a deposit paid) when I started noticing second hand ones coming on the market in the US the following month.
Curiosity got the better of me - so I used to email the sellers and ask them why they were selling. Call me Doris. The most common reason given was being new to rangefinders and not being able to focus. Next reason was guilt for excessive consumption.
Keeping mine.
It is actually quite interesting, to follow some posts of "new to RF cameras, just bought an M9" (no judgement).
It seems, quite a few people do jump into these cameras like into cold water.
Some of them end up loving it, some end up selling again.
The notion of "going back to film" also seems not so far fetched.
Carterofmars
Well-known
There are currently 3 M9s for sale in the Leica User Forum classifieds. They pop up from time to time.
Yeah buy those are used and over the 7K mark. That doesn't make sense to me.
Is that Donkey Kong?
Some used ones were selling for a premium over list, I think because new ones were so hard to find. I expect that's pretty much over, now, or will be soon.
BillBingham2
Registered User
Dear Brian,
Quite, but there's little hope of persuading a certain kind of technophile that anything more than 5 years old will continue to do what it always did, as well as it always did, until it breaks or (assuming it can be reached for servicing) until it can no longer be repaired.
........
Cheers,
R.
Have to side with Mr. Brian on this one Roger. The value of the first little digital rangefinder from Epson has stabolized quite well and there are many still clicking away.
There's a lot of "Old" technology out there still working very well. Seem to remember the Segway being based on some "Old" pentium chips, perhaps 4 of them or so. Not quite as old as the Intel chip Brian noted but heck, I know the Z80 family still lives on some where and that's over 30 too.
My guess is the M9 will have a long life, perhaps not that of the M3, but it will be way beyond five or ten years. I was still using my old 1 MP Olympus because it worked very well, was paid for, fit in my pocket and took AA batteries well after five years. It's still working out in California with at some university lab thing I sent it to.
BOT (Back On Topic), if I had one the only reason to sell it would be to free up cash for food or an M10 (with better low light performance we pray...). The current lineup of Evil Nikon DSLRs seem to have the M9 whipped in that area of performance.
B2 (;->
I think Roger will be happily using his M9 for a VERY Long time.
And since you mention the Z80,
http://www.zilog.com/
It lives on in a full line of current embedded microcontrollers. The Z80 architecture is amazing for fast-context switches in handling interrupts.One of my favorite all-time assembly languages. I disassembled the FORTRAN-80 library and replaced the multiply and divide routines with my own that ran 2x faster. That WAS 30 years ago.
And since you mention the Z80,
http://www.zilog.com/
It lives on in a full line of current embedded microcontrollers. The Z80 architecture is amazing for fast-context switches in handling interrupts.One of my favorite all-time assembly languages. I disassembled the FORTRAN-80 library and replaced the multiply and divide routines with my own that ran 2x faster. That WAS 30 years ago.
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