MikeL
Go Fish
back alley said:sean reid has posted the start of his summarit reviews and his first was the 35/2.5 lens.
i wont give away the ending seeing how it's a paid site but the cv lens performed admirably in comparison to the biogon, summicron and the summarit.
today, it's more about the shooter than the gun.
joe
Just saw this too Joe. When I need a 35mm for screw or m-mount and don't need the speed, I know which one I'm getting.
kevin m
Veteran
I have never fully understood what, exactly the term "rangefinder advantage" means.
Me either, exactly...
As it regards lens performance, I think it's simply that RF lenses don't have to be retrofocus designs to clear an SLR mirror. Here's an explanation I clipped from Dante Stella's site:
There is no question that symmetrical rangefinder lenses outshine retrofocus SLR versions in distortion and resolution. They're also smaller front-to-back. You can get teeny 28s, for example, that make a rangefinder camera pocketable. Retrofocus design (which underlies SLR wideangles) also works better for rangefinder wideangle lenses (as it does in the new Cosina lenses), because with rangefinders it is used to increase the number of lens elements to improve correction rather than being used to radically increase the backfocus distance to clear a 45mm-deep mirror.
http://www.dantestella.com/technical/rangefinder.html
retow
Well-known
back alley said:sean reid has posted the start of his summarit reviews and his first was the 35/2.5 lens.
i wont give away the ending seeing how it's a paid site but the cv lens performed admirably in comparison to the biogon, summicron and the summarit.
today, it's more about the shooter than the gun.
joe
CV 35/2.5 plus CV 35/1.2 together costing significantly less than a new Summarit 35 plus hood and cap!
retow
Well-known
MikeL said:Just saw this too Joe. When I need a 35mm for screw or m-mount and don't need the speed, I know which one I'm getting.
And if you need speed (real speed that is), buy the CV 35/1.2 in addition to the CV 35/2.5.
T
tedwhite
Guest
The best buy I've ever made in a new lens was the CV 35/2.5 in terms of price begetting quality.
Rayt
Nonplayer Character
The Cosina Wobble - eventually the mount of the lens will become a bit loose typically the front of the lens will have some play. This does not seem to affect picture taking qualities so given the low price of CV lenses this is acceptable.
Krosya
Konicaze
It's not that I wouldn't buy CV lenses. I, somehow don't end up keeping very many. From the ones that I tried :90/3.5, 21/4, 25/4P, 35/1.7, - the only one I still own is 35/1.7. To me it has personality or character. In other words - I like how it draws. Others, while were sharp and very affordable lenses (and I'm glad they were, so I could try them easily), they didn't give me type of image I like - be that bokeh or contrast or something else. I can't even explain sometimes what it is, yet I knew those lenses were not for me. That happened with some leica and Zeiss lenses too btw.
So, while not always a keeper, they are fun to at least try for a while.
So, while not always a keeper, they are fun to at least try for a while.
PaulDalex
Dilettante artist
None of those.
I have NO Cosina.
When I was young I made the big mistake of buying a crap lens based on a magazine's favorable review, although I consider qualitative reviews a nonsense (and such is the qualitative factor of Pop Photo).
Since then I decided and sweared to myself to only buy lenses for which at least some MTF have been published, provided such info (possibly along with comments of competent people like you guys of RFF) would convince me.
That was the end of crap lenses for me.
Now if Cosina does its home-work like Leica and Zeiss do, and does publish (possibly measured!) MTF, depending on what I see I might consider a Cosina lens.
Cheers
Paul
I have NO Cosina.
When I was young I made the big mistake of buying a crap lens based on a magazine's favorable review, although I consider qualitative reviews a nonsense (and such is the qualitative factor of Pop Photo).
Since then I decided and sweared to myself to only buy lenses for which at least some MTF have been published, provided such info (possibly along with comments of competent people like you guys of RFF) would convince me.
That was the end of crap lenses for me.
Now if Cosina does its home-work like Leica and Zeiss do, and does publish (possibly measured!) MTF, depending on what I see I might consider a Cosina lens.
Cheers
Paul
chuber
Newbie
Just don't like the way they look. ^
kevin m
Veteran
When I was young I made the big mistake of buying a crap lens...
Name a "crap" lens in the VC line up, please.
Thardy
Veteran
BillP
Rangefinder General
chuber said:Just don't like the way they look. ^
Physically, or the results they produce?
Regards,
Bill
kevin m
Veteran
you forgot,
cheers
I'm not sure whether you're being cryptic, or simply ungrammatical. In any case, refresh my memory.
chuber
Newbie
BillP said:Physically, or the results they produce?
Regards,
Bill
Just physically.....I tried some of them and the results are outstanding.
I'm sorry
ray*j*gun
Veteran
Is there a reliability issue with the Bessa Cameras? I just bought a Bessa R2s and love the way it handles and don't mind the louder shutter. Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Ray
Thanks.
Ray
Solinar
Analog Preferred
Ray if you try to take a photo while advancing the film. That can cause a shutter jam or more specifically, a linkage to jam at the bottom of the camera.
I've heard of slightly tilted frame lines and RF patches that need alignment, but haven't experienced any of the above on my Bessa R, which was purchased second-hand here on the RFF for $200 in January of 05.
Since then I've mainly used in places I don't really want to bring one of the Leicas and I have only shot maybe 70 rolls of film. It has been dropped twice, bang around in a bicycle pannier and works as well the day I received it.
I'm partial to 100% mechanical shutters and the R, R2 or R2M fits the bill for little money.
I've heard of slightly tilted frame lines and RF patches that need alignment, but haven't experienced any of the above on my Bessa R, which was purchased second-hand here on the RFF for $200 in January of 05.
Since then I've mainly used in places I don't really want to bring one of the Leicas and I have only shot maybe 70 rolls of film. It has been dropped twice, bang around in a bicycle pannier and works as well the day I received it.
I'm partial to 100% mechanical shutters and the R, R2 or R2M fits the bill for little money.
T
tedwhite
Guest
I've had my 'R' for several years and it, too, has not been treated with kid gloves. It always works perfectly. My only 'complaint' is minor: Rewind is a bit stiff.
I like the 'R' so well I plan on soon buying either an R4A or an R4M. Trying to decide which.
I like the 'R' so well I plan on soon buying either an R4A or an R4M. Trying to decide which.
Malheiro
Newbie
Bertram2
Gone elsewhere
Pistach said:Since then I decided and sweared to myself to only buy lenses for which at least some MTF have been published,
Paul
Well, believe it or not, but there are people out there who can SEE if a lens is good or not. By watching the results, not any MTFs.
T
tedwhite
Guest
What's an MTF?
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