danz
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It doesn't make you a good photographer
but with the Leica M9, you definitely look good AS a photographer.
but with the Leica M9, you definitely look good AS a photographer.
Will M9 make you a better photographer?
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monochromejrnl
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no more so than ownership of the best hammer makes you a better carpenter...
no point in trying to rationalize gear, if you can afford it, buy it
no point in trying to rationalize gear, if you can afford it, buy it
AgentX
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No, but an EOS-1 SLR is a hell of a lot like one of Canon's digis...
My point is that there's no reason why the rangefinder camera is connected to film any more than the SLR camera. True, film SLR camera flagships loaded on the technology in terms of autofocus/exposure/winding, while the Leica remained an anachronism, but we're not even talking about camera features.
We're talking about the method of capturing the image. No reason a rangefinder shouldn't/can't be digital, and no reason Leica shouldn't make one...it's going to be necessary to survive as a business, anyhow.
peewee
Established
stupid question. Of course it will, if it has smile detection even better.
vdonovan
Vince Donovan
MacDaddy's approach shows that there are two investments to make. One is equipment, but the other is time, attention, mindfulness, care and education.
Traut
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What makes one a "good photographer" reminds me of a description of football coach Bum Phillips: "He can beat you with his'n and he can beat you with your'n".
In other words John Coltrane would sound better on a toy sax than I would on his Selmer - ad infintim
In other words John Coltrane would sound better on a toy sax than I would on his Selmer - ad infintim
mikemyers
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I'm guessing all you guys are just joking here. In the first place, how can anyone seriously discuss a camera that doesn't exist? Nobody knows if it might be coming out soon, or what the specifications might be, or if it does exist, when it will become available. Nobody knows the price either, but since it's still just vaporware, none of this matters.
I doubt very much if anyone here thinks that when/if it does become available, it will make them a better photographer either. Maybe it will let them do new and different things, but making better pictures probably isn't one of them.
I'm glad I got my M8, as it lets me do things as I used to a lifetime ago, but I don't think it's suddenly going to make my pictuires "better". It's a tool, and a very good one, but it's the photographer who makes the picture, not the camera.
I doubt very much if anyone here thinks that when/if it does become available, it will make them a better photographer either. Maybe it will let them do new and different things, but making better pictures probably isn't one of them.
I'm glad I got my M8, as it lets me do things as I used to a lifetime ago, but I don't think it's suddenly going to make my pictuires "better". It's a tool, and a very good one, but it's the photographer who makes the picture, not the camera.
swoop
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Better high ISO performance and a quieter shutter will make me a more useful and practical photographer.
AgentX
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Some tools can limit users, and other tools can help users achieve their best. Talented people with bad tools usually do better than untalented people with the best tools.
Those who focus on the goal are usually better off than those who focus on the tools. But there's nothing wrong with knowing about tools for your task, either.
Those who focus on the goal are usually better off than those who focus on the tools. But there's nothing wrong with knowing about tools for your task, either.
edho
edho
Sometimes the more you shoot the worse the images will become. I always find that the first shot is the best shot regarding composition and moment capturing. So using digital to shoot more does not really benefit my photography. Sometimes it even make it worse.
I don't think M9 will make me a better photographer, but I know if one is to use digital M then M9 is a much better camera then M8 for sure.
I don't think M9 will make me a better photographer, but I know if one is to use digital M then M9 is a much better camera then M8 for sure.
AgentX
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Really? I'd love a detailed user report of your M9!!
Tom Niblick
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I'm not sure if a M9 will make me a better photographer but I am looking forward to using my old 35 and 90 kit. Higher ISO/less noise, 18 mp and no filters will go a long way towards making the experience better... so yes, in the end, I will make better photos.
On the other hand, I have enjoyed the normal (35 mm lens) perspective that the M8 has imposed. My M8 photos have a different look than my M4 photos. The "normal" perspective has been a (re)learning experience.
Tom
On the other hand, I have enjoyed the normal (35 mm lens) perspective that the M8 has imposed. My M8 photos have a different look than my M4 photos. The "normal" perspective has been a (re)learning experience.
Tom
DougFord
on the good foot
[FONT="]Will M9 make you a better photographer?[/FONT]
[FONT="]I honestly dunno.[/FONT]
[FONT="]If the good doctor could see his way in providing me with a free loaner M9 for the next year, I’d report back my findings. 🙄[/FONT]
[FONT="]I honestly dunno.[/FONT]
[FONT="]If the good doctor could see his way in providing me with a free loaner M9 for the next year, I’d report back my findings. 🙄[/FONT]
edho
edho
OK, may be it is too early to say how good M9 is as I haven't got a chance to see one yet. But for its full frame senser which allows me to shoot wide angle shots the way they should be, and more accurate framelines in the viewfinder(which I found the inaccurate framelines of M8 really sucks), it shall be a significant improvement from M8. Not sure if Leica will solve the UV/IR issue as well in M9. Wish they will.
clicker
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apples and oranges
AgentX
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a tool is a tool is a tool is a tool is a tool is a tool
what you use is of no importance. all that matters is that whatever it may be, gets you to your ultimate vision, goal, etc. if that is a toy camera, a frankencamera, a paintbrush and light sensitive paper, or whatever, then so be it.
what you use is of no importance. all that matters is that whatever it may be, gets you to your ultimate vision, goal, etc. if that is a toy camera, a frankencamera, a paintbrush and light sensitive paper, or whatever, then so be it.
jky
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Using a 28mm or a 25mm on an M8 (w/ FOV of 37 & 33 respectively) is still not quite shooting with a 35mm lens on full frame/film from my experience...
But then again, a 35mm lens has been my body cap for years whereas the 28 & 25 have only been used (on the M8) for a small fraction of that.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
Al Kaplan
Veteran
"Let the hammer do the work!" is the way I was taught. Your hand gives it momentum and guides its direction, but really adds no force to it once it starts its swing. How does that relate to taking pictures?
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