helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
I will still Shoot Film....there's nothin like it 
The Way it Renders Light and ALL its Imperfections
but if this Cam is Indeed Great
it will Give me the Opportunity to branch out with a Different 'Look' & 'Style'
The Way it Renders Light and ALL its Imperfections
but if this Cam is Indeed Great
it will Give me the Opportunity to branch out with a Different 'Look' & 'Style'
Stuart John
Well-known
I think it may appeal to those who can afford it but those like me that use old an old Canonet, FM2 or a used 1Dh probably won't be getting one until they are available used cheeply.
V
varjag
Guest
It's a wannabe camera, you can see from the design what it aspires to be.
Thanks but no thanks, I'll shoot the real thing
Thanks but no thanks, I'll shoot the real thing
NickTrop
Veteran
Curiously, Fuji I believe (don't quote me) gives certain "film look" options (Velvia, Across, etc.) in camera... which I would think would somewhat *******ize film sales, though only marginally.
bigeye
Well-known
Functionally, it's still kind like a Nikon 35Ti, so I'm missing a lot here. The R-D1 at least had an M-mount.
ashfaque
Learning
When I 1st saw the image on DPR, I thought it was a new camera from Leica.
Just some speculations: I think/hope that Leica enters in such market - even better if it can be used with R lenses. However, considering the selling price of X100 is around $1000, Leica would be charging at least 2000 USD! Therefore it would probably be competing with used DRF cameras [Leica M8 and Epson R-D1]. Consequently, I don't think Leica is joining in - unless of course we have 'LX5 == DL5' type of introduction.
On a sidenote, I was really sad not to see any DRF introduced by Zeiss, VC, et al.
Ash
Just some speculations: I think/hope that Leica enters in such market - even better if it can be used with R lenses. However, considering the selling price of X100 is around $1000, Leica would be charging at least 2000 USD! Therefore it would probably be competing with used DRF cameras [Leica M8 and Epson R-D1]. Consequently, I don't think Leica is joining in - unless of course we have 'LX5 == DL5' type of introduction.
On a sidenote, I was really sad not to see any DRF introduced by Zeiss, VC, et al.
Ash
Functionally, it's still kind like a Nikon 35Ti, so I'm missing a lot here. The R-D1 at least had an M-mount.
How so... the 35ti didn't have a shutter speed dial, didn't have a fast lens, was not shaped like this, and only had a very simple OVF. It more like a Hexar or Contax G than any P&S.
It's a wannabe camera, you can see from the design what it aspires to be.
Thanks but no thanks, I'll shoot the real thing![]()
Wannabe what? Real? huh?
Vincent.G
Well-known
I think this camera might ignite interest in rangefinder cameras because the design looks so similar.
Brian Legge
Veteran
I like compact rangefinders and most of what i use is fixed lens. This camera is the closest digital equivalent I've seen yet.
I won't be buying it.
The reason is simple - price. If I wasn't price sensitive, I would have picked up a CLE and lenses. I obviously don't know about everyone else, but I'd be surprised if fixed lens rangefinder users were the core market for this camera.
I won't be buying it.
The reason is simple - price. If I wasn't price sensitive, I would have picked up a CLE and lenses. I obviously don't know about everyone else, but I'd be surprised if fixed lens rangefinder users were the core market for this camera.
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
I might get one since I would not feel the fixed 35mm eq. lens a drawback at all. It would be perfect for street and PJ shooting and I like zooming by foot and the altered dimensions in photos that it gets me.
But, I'd shoot as much film as I do now, just a larger number of pictures altogether!![]()
Yes. Provided that they don't really mess up the implementation, I'd love to have one of these and an M with a couple of lenses in my bag. Perfect.
bwcolor
Veteran
All my cameras are fixed lenses. I have one body for each lens...or at least I will after selling a couple of lenses that I tend not to use. 35mm is my main focal length.
I also really hate cleaning sensors.
I have my doubts as to if I will like this camera as much as, for example, Ektar 100 and my new 35mm Biogon C. Fuji will really need to hit a home run with that lens/sensor/processor image chain.
Of course, high ISO will be a hands down win for Fuji.
We will see.
I also really hate cleaning sensors.
I have my doubts as to if I will like this camera as much as, for example, Ektar 100 and my new 35mm Biogon C. Fuji will really need to hit a home run with that lens/sensor/processor image chain.
Of course, high ISO will be a hands down win for Fuji.
We will see.
Steve Bellayr
Veteran
It is too early to truly make an accurate prediction. As I understand it no cameras have been produced. Searching the web I came up with a price of $1750, whether or not this is true I do not know. In the past both the Olympus EP & Canon G series were hyped but neither lived up to the hype. The only camera recently that has lived up (and there has been much controversay to this) to its hype is the Leica M9, as exemplified by the overwhelming demand. Going back to this new camera, among the many issues to be resolved is the quality of the images it produces and different ISO settings as well as fstops; viewfinder clarity; shutter lag; software, etc. What must also be considered is that this camera has a video component which is not desireable to many film shooters.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
I think no digital camera will affect film sales.
Film sales were heavily affected long ago by digital cameras, a decade ago, but those of us using film these days, do it because what we do can't be done with any digital sensor. Things like wet printing and having an original physical recording of a scene. So film sales will be more or less the same: B&W film sales, because color depends too much on labs and will diminish until becoming a vintage process.
Cheers,
Juan
Film sales were heavily affected long ago by digital cameras, a decade ago, but those of us using film these days, do it because what we do can't be done with any digital sensor. Things like wet printing and having an original physical recording of a scene. So film sales will be more or less the same: B&W film sales, because color depends too much on labs and will diminish until becoming a vintage process.
Cheers,
Juan
Steve_F
Well-known
Is this $1000 equating to £700 or will it be rip-off Britain (again) and £1000.
I love the idea of the fixed the 35mm (equiv. lens).
I'd just keep it alongside my M6 TTL. There's always some shots that you'd like as good quality digital.
Given up carrying the D3 around and even the D200. Was toying with an LX3 or Nikon P7000. Just have to save longer. I've not read the full spec - does it do RAW?
The viewfinder has sold it too me. Hate the looking at the screen for the shot bit. I mean fancy the X1 making you do that. Viewer extra? C'mon Leica give us a break!
Steve.
I love the idea of the fixed the 35mm (equiv. lens).
I'd just keep it alongside my M6 TTL. There's always some shots that you'd like as good quality digital.
Given up carrying the D3 around and even the D200. Was toying with an LX3 or Nikon P7000. Just have to save longer. I've not read the full spec - does it do RAW?
The viewfinder has sold it too me. Hate the looking at the screen for the shot bit. I mean fancy the X1 making you do that. Viewer extra? C'mon Leica give us a break!
Steve.
jvan01
Established
I think it's a close substitute for fixed lens rangefinders like Hexar and XA/trip, Canonet in terms of its spec but not sure of its price.
If it is priced correctly, I will definitely give it a go and I will definitely shoot less film with the M and other 135 film SLRs
However, nothing replaces the fun in shooting a roll of Tri-X (pushed two stops)![]()
Juan V said it right.
Anyone who still chooses to shoot film in 2010 (like most all of us here on RFF) is part of a self-selected user base. I don't think a cute little digital camera with a few rangefinder-like accoutrements is going to massively change the game like you would believe. Sorry.
bensyverson
Well-known
I will say this... I visit NYC somewhat regularly, and have noticed a pattern in what cameras people carry based on their age:
Who knows if those rebellious teens will keep using film for years, or if it's just a phase... But it really is encouraging to see.
- Over 50: Almost 100% generic P+S
- Age 40-50: An equal mix of Canon G-series, DSLRs, and generic P+S.
- Age 25-40: Almost 100% DSLRs.
- Under 25: About 50/50 split between DSLRs and classic film cameras!
Who knows if those rebellious teens will keep using film for years, or if it's just a phase... But it really is encouraging to see.
Well, I live in NYC and know a small group of people, in the 25-40 range, that use plenty of film cameras and digital leicas. I'd say people under 20 use many different things. I see the toy camera types, the old cheap rangefinder types, the film SLR types, etc.
I see film cameras on a daily basis in NYC...good ones too; Leicas, Hasselblad, etc. I see people with Leicas regularly. Howver, cheap P&S and DSLRs are the norm by far.
I see film cameras on a daily basis in NYC...good ones too; Leicas, Hasselblad, etc. I see people with Leicas regularly. Howver, cheap P&S and DSLRs are the norm by far.
Ronald M
Veteran
I would not give up an interchangeable lens camera for it, Nikons, Leica R, Leica M plus all the lenses for all systems.
sepiareverb
genius and moron
how many could they possibly sell?
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