Would you enter this big name competition?

[Huss]

If you read this in their Official Rules?

https://www.bombayartisan.com/official-rules/

Sponsor’s Rights to Entries: You do not transfer ownership of your Entry by entering the Contest. However, by entering, you: (a) irrevocably grant Sponsor, its agents, licensees, and assigns the unconditional and perpetual exclusive right and permission to reproduce, encode, store, copy, transmit, publish, post, broadcast, display, publicly perform, exhibit, and otherwise use your Entry (with or without using your name) in any media throughout the world for any purpose, without limitation, and without additional review, compensation, or approval from you or any other party; (b) forever waive any rights of copyrights, trademark rights, privacy rights, and any other legal or moral rights that may preclude Sponsor’s use of your Entry, or require any further permission for Sponsor to use the Entry; and (c) agree not to instigate, support, maintain, or authorize any action, claim, or lawsuit against Sponsor on the grounds that any use of the Entry, or any derivative works, infringes any of your rights as creator of the Entry, including, without limitation, copyrights, trademark rights, and moral rights

 

[Ko.Fe.]

No, but because the gin is the only alcohol drink which makes me sick in the stomach.

 

[nickthetasmaniac]

Sponsor’s Rights to Entries: You do not transfer ownership of your Entry by entering the Contest. However...

As they say, everything before the 'but' is bulls^*t...

 

[michaelwj]

What's the prize?
Everything has its price, some are willing, some not.

Only open to US and Canada residents too btw, I can't even look at the rules online, I just get redirected.

 

[lynnb]

If you read this in their Official Rules?

https://www.bombayartisan.com/official-rules/

I assume your question is rhetorical?

 

[BillBingham2]

No.

My gut says they are building a treasure trove of shots they can sell.

Not even on of the digital shots I delete.

B2 (;->

 

[Huss]

No.

My gut says they are building a treasure trove of shots they can sell.

Not even on of the digital shots I delete.

B2 (;->

Exactly. Instead of having to hire and pay staff photographers, this allows them to build their library, to do with as they wish, for free.
Even if you 'win', you're image is gone along with any acknowledgement that you were the creator. So you do not even get name recognition for it.

@Lynn, yes, it is a rhetorical question as I'm putting this out there so hopefully photographers start reading the fine print when they send out their images. This one is about the worst I have yet seen, as it includes the phrases that you cannot sue them etc.

Some may be desperate for the exposure, so to speak. But if your name is no longer attached to the image you're not getting exposure. You've just been played.

 

[Lss]

"Sorry, this competition is only open to residents of the USA and Canada."

I think they made the decision for me in more than one way.

 

[radi(c)al_cam]

"Sorry, this competition is only open to residents of the USA and Canada."

I think they made the decision for me in more than one way.

Exactly. If Europeans would be able to take part, I suppose some of them would reconsider the rules, and then there would be the problem, that any Court in Paris, Rome, Brussels etc. would decide that the «however» rules of that contest are contrary to European intellectual property laws, and so these «however»-rules shan't apply to European citizens.

 

[Addy101]

You keep ownership but you sign away all rights that come with ownership. They don't just have the right to do with it what they like, but it is also an exclusive right, which means you can't do anything with that ownership - hence you loose ownership. As radi(c)al_cam pointed out, that won't fly in the EU. You can't sign away your fundemental rights in the EU.

 

[jsrockit]

We can use your image for anything we want and not even use your name... and you get... what?

 

[radi(c)al_cam]

Only open to US and Canada residents too btw, I can't even look at the rules online, I just get redirected.

LOL, even the «Past Winners» are a secret, when one is not North American!

Oh, and wait:

THEY have quite a lot to say regarding THEIR Intellectual Property Rights, e.g.:

«The Materials are protected by intellectual property laws and treaties around the world. All such rights are reserved.»

https://www.bombaysapphire.com/en-US/terms.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1#terms

 

[Timmyjoe]

They're all doing it these days. Most publications are asking for user generated content, which is code for, let's get the suckers to send us images for free with promises of "exposure" so we don't have to pay photojournalists anymore.

The sad thing is, most publications that used to be "of note" are now running images that they wouldn't have been caught dead running ten years ago (think cell phone snaps), because as one editor told me, "Our audience doesn't care anymore, they're used to seeing iPhone pics on Facebook, Twitter, Snap-Chat, etc."

 

[jsrockit]

The sad thing is, most publications that used to be "of note" are now running images that they wouldn't have been caught dead running ten years ago (think cell phone snaps), because as one editor told me, "Our audience doesn't care anymore, they're used to seeing iPhone pics on Facebook, Twitter, Snap-Chat, etc."

It's not sad if the image is good. Cell phones have come a long way in 10 years.

 

[brennanphotoguy]

It's not sad if the image is good. Cell phones have come a long way in 10 years.

This. And I'm sure another thing to consider is that for sponsored posts you'd rather your ad blend with someone else's feed and doesn't stand out in a way to make it look like a sponsored post.

 

[Timmyjoe]

It's not sad if the image is good. Cell phones have come a long way in 10 years.

It is sad that these publications are running images that no one was ever paid for. Putting many photojournalists out of work.

 

[jsrockit]

It is sad that these publications are running images that no one was ever paid for. Putting many photojournalists out of work.

Well, I'm not sure which publications we are talking about... my point was just regarding cell phone photos. National Geographic and the New York Times have published cell phone photos by known photographers. I would imagine they got paid in some form.

 

[BillBingham2]

It depends, are you a big name photographer who publishes a lot of work, or are you just a amature snappers who would find it fun to win?

Having spent way too much time working in Corporate America and a bit volunteering with some NYC Detectives in the early 80s my read is that everyone submitting would win so you will send more pictures next time........

On the other hand winning is a lot of fun.

B2 (;->

 

[MrFujicaman]

I think they drank too much of their own gin.

 

[noisycheese]

If you read this in their Official Rules?

https://www.bombayartisan.com/official-rules/

Sponsor’s Rights to Entries: You do not transfer ownership of your Entry by entering the Contest. However, by entering, you: (a) irrevocably grant Sponsor, its agents, licensees, and assigns the unconditional and perpetual exclusive right and permission to reproduce, encode, store, copy, transmit, publish, post, broadcast, display, publicly perform, exhibit, and otherwise use your Entry (with or without using your name) in any media throughout the world for any purpose, without limitation, and without additional review, compensation, or approval from you or any other party;

(b) forever waive any rights of copyrights, trademark rights, privacy rights, and any other legal or moral rights that may preclude Sponsor’s use of your Entry, or require any further permission for Sponsor to use the Entry; and (c) agree not to instigate, support, maintain, or authorize any action, claim, or lawsuit against Sponsor on the grounds that any use of the Entry, or any derivative works, infringes any of your rights as creator of the Entry, including, without limitation, copyrights, trademark rights, and moral rights

No way in hell.

Any one of the above provisions (orange) are absolute deal breakers in my book.

I would not ever enter such a supposed "contest" nor would I license or sell any of my work to any company under such flagrantly abusive and exploitative terms and conditions.