Junomad
Newbie
Hi,
I asked the question on the x-pro 1 forum and I was curious to know if people here would tell me something different.
I'm thinking about selling my x-pro 1 to get an X100s. As it wouldn't involve any more money to satisfy (o so temporarily, unfortunately) my GAS. And I was wondering if any of you guys had made the same jump?
My thoughts :
- I do not own any Fuji lens so no Af, and focusing my M lenses in evf isn't my definition of fun. It's getting better with each update but it still using the evf most of the time for a camera I was mainly interested in because of its ovf ( that I do use when I zone or hyperfocus). A digital body should be convenient and it isn't.
- the x100s is small and light. That's a plus and would serve wonders as a camera that's always with me. Also the fixed lens seals my lust for Fuji lenses.
But
- I didn't try a real shoot with Fuji lenses on the x-pro 1, just some In store shots of a camera stuck on firmware 2.0 ( ridiculous...) the Af on the 35 did not feel nice, certainly not as snappy as the x100s. But the 18 was definitely better than the 35.
- Fuji just announced some nice deals on their lenses and now would be the right time to get a lens for that x-pro 1. This wouldn't help my wallet though.
Your thoughts are welcome. I would love to hear from someone who did the same or thought the same and hear what made them keep their x-pro 1 or make the jump to an X100s.
Thanks!
I asked the question on the x-pro 1 forum and I was curious to know if people here would tell me something different.
I'm thinking about selling my x-pro 1 to get an X100s. As it wouldn't involve any more money to satisfy (o so temporarily, unfortunately) my GAS. And I was wondering if any of you guys had made the same jump?
My thoughts :
- I do not own any Fuji lens so no Af, and focusing my M lenses in evf isn't my definition of fun. It's getting better with each update but it still using the evf most of the time for a camera I was mainly interested in because of its ovf ( that I do use when I zone or hyperfocus). A digital body should be convenient and it isn't.
- the x100s is small and light. That's a plus and would serve wonders as a camera that's always with me. Also the fixed lens seals my lust for Fuji lenses.
But
- I didn't try a real shoot with Fuji lenses on the x-pro 1, just some In store shots of a camera stuck on firmware 2.0 ( ridiculous...) the Af on the 35 did not feel nice, certainly not as snappy as the x100s. But the 18 was definitely better than the 35.
- Fuji just announced some nice deals on their lenses and now would be the right time to get a lens for that x-pro 1. This wouldn't help my wallet though.
Your thoughts are welcome. I would love to hear from someone who did the same or thought the same and hear what made them keep their x-pro 1 or make the jump to an X100s.
Thanks!
GaryLH
Veteran
The xe2 and xt1 are both faster than the xp1 or xe1 in terms of af speed. They both would be better than xp1 in terms of helping u focus manual lenses better due to better evf quality and split image focusing aid (if u decide focus peaking is not for u).
The x100s af is just as fast as the xe2, but not as fast as the new xt1 according to the info currently available. The leaf shutter on the x100s makes this camera dead quiet and can flash sync at any shutter speed.
Given u are not happy w/ the xp1, i would say if u not interested in either the xe2 or xt1, get the x100s. Buy the xp2 when it is announced. Personally I still have my x100 even though I have a xp1 and xe1 because it is dead quiet.
Gary
The x100s af is just as fast as the xe2, but not as fast as the new xt1 according to the info currently available. The leaf shutter on the x100s makes this camera dead quiet and can flash sync at any shutter speed.
Given u are not happy w/ the xp1, i would say if u not interested in either the xe2 or xt1, get the x100s. Buy the xp2 when it is announced. Personally I still have my x100 even though I have a xp1 and xe1 because it is dead quiet.
Gary
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
I have both the XP1 and X100s. I often think about selling the X100s to finance another lens for the XP1. However, I still have it because the X100s can be operated with zero sound. For interior 'street' photography, it can't be beat. The thing the XP1 has going for it, besides interchangeable lenses of course, is that its dynamic range is much wider than the X100s. You can stretch the XP1 RAW files much farther than the X100s files.
Personally, I think the combination of these two cameras provides enough quality technology to last for years to come and not feel the need to trade up to the next generation.
Personally, I think the combination of these two cameras provides enough quality technology to last for years to come and not feel the need to trade up to the next generation.
f16sunshine
Moderator
Interesting. I had not read or heard that before. I wonder what is different.
Is it the sensor or the RAW engine making the difference?
nongfuspring
Well-known
Really? I don't have an XP1, but I have an X-E1 with the same sensor, I find the x100s to have more contrast than the X-E1, but I feel it's because of the lens rather than a lack of DR. I don't spend a lot of time with RAW files, but in my experience so far they're not so easy to distinguish in terms of latitude, for me the most notable difference is in AF performance.
willie_901
Veteran
The analog dynamic range of the XTrans APS-C sensors is similar.
I know of raw file data analyses by a private party that show the XE-1 DR is 13.5 stops. This was published on another forum so I won't link to it here.
I will say the methods use to estimate the raw dynamic range can be found here:
Measurements
Calculations
This DR estimate is similar to second-hand information from discussions between Fujifilm engineers and visitors who previewed the XE-2 in Japan last fall. The read noise throughout the analog data stream could be slightly improved with each new body. But I don't know of any measurements that show significant differences.
I know of raw file data analyses by a private party that show the XE-1 DR is 13.5 stops. This was published on another forum so I won't link to it here.
I will say the methods use to estimate the raw dynamic range can be found here:
Measurements
Calculations
This DR estimate is similar to second-hand information from discussions between Fujifilm engineers and visitors who previewed the XE-2 in Japan last fall. The read noise throughout the analog data stream could be slightly improved with each new body. But I don't know of any measurements that show significant differences.
twopointeight
Well-known
I use both for professional work along with Canon. I favor the XP1 over the x100s because of the larger size and ergonomics. It's just easier to operate. The x100s is almost too quiet and the controls too small. But I keep it as a back-up and for when I'm out and about with nothing in mind.
Jamie Pillers
Skeptic
Have a look: Go to dpreview.com and look for the X-Pro1 review. Then go to the "Dynamic Range" page. There you'll find an interactive section where the camera is compared to others. You can select any other camera they've reviewed and it'll compare the dynamic ranges. The X-Pro1, with no adjustments, shows greater detail deep into the shadows than most other cameras. Then when you bump up the X-Pro1's dynamic range setting to DRauto, or DR200, etc., the camera's highlight range goes off the chart... way past other cameras, including the other Fuji models.
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douglasf13
Well-known
X-trans has better DR and lower noise at high ISO, and Bayer has better DR and higher resolution at low ISO. Each is a trade off with pluses and minuses, and, in a nutshell, X-trans is a little better in lowlight, and Bayer is a little better in good light. Pick your poison.