X-Pro 2: any news?

[robert blu]

Boring afternoon here, surfing the net, I saw this announcement about an X-pro2 to be released possibly in the beginning of next year...do you think it can be real?
robert

PS: hmmm, even if real still a few months...

 

[jsrockit]

Yes, i think it is coming soon. No inside info, but it's long overdue and Fuji has said that it is an important product for them in interviews.

 

[DNG]

The only thing that disturbs me about this announcement is that The X Pro 2 will be much smaller than the current model. What's that mean?

I mean, if they're going to make it the same size as the XM series or whatever the barebones consumer series are, that's a huge mistake.

They could shave a few millimetres off here and there but please do not make it small. As much as I love the Olympus Camera, I'm talking the Micro Four Thirds. Even there OM D Series bodies were too small.

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[DNG]

That was the reason I went from Olympus om-d to Fuji X the size of the body was more conventional and proper for this old man

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[jsrockit]

The only thing that disturbs me about this announcement is that The X Pro 2 will be much smaller than the current model.

Yeah, that'll suck if true.

 

[muser53]

The trend toward miniaturization is in my opinion a mistake. Just because you can do it doesn't make it right. A more appropriate and desirable design goal is to make the controls fall easily and intuitively to hand to a large percentage of targeted users.

 

[daveleo]

With an OFV/EFV, It can't get smaller that the X100 series, is what I am thinking.
The XA1/XM1 have no room at their size for a viewfinder.

 

[f16sunshine]

The trend toward miniaturization is in my opinion a mistake. Just because you can do it doesn't make it right. A more appropriate and desirable design goal is to make the controls fall easily and intuitively to hand to a large percentage of targeted users.

Agree completely!

That and to fit everything in that gives a maximum performance package.
This new Leica has done the right thng in this regard.

It's OK to have small low powered convienent cameras and large high performance professional cameras in the same lens mount family.
Sony and Fuji have failed to this point in the latter. They have plenty of little cameras.
Look at Sony with the original RX1(r).... they have to externalize much desired EVF's to make decievingly smaller packages. (The new version with pop up EVF looks like a joke!).
If everything you want to offer does not fit, it's too small!
To small is just as bad if not worse than too Big.

There is simply not a camera body in the Fuji system that puts emphasis on performance überalles!

Let's see what the Xpro2 brings.

 

[GaryLH]

Agree completely!

That and to fit everything in that gives a maximum performance package.
This new Leica has done the right thng in this regard.

It's OK to have small low powered convienent cameras and large high performance professional cameras in the same lens mount family.
Sony and Fuji have failed to this point in the latter. They have plenty of little cameras.
Look at Sony with the original RX1(r).... they have to externalize much desired EVF's to make decievingly smaller packages. (The new version with pop up EVF looks like a joke!).
If everything you want to offer does not fit, it's too small!
To small is just as bad if not worse than too Big.

There is simply not a camera body in the Fuji system that puts emphasis on performance überalles!

Let's see what the Xpro2 brings.

Plus one..

There is such a thing as too small.. Slightly smaller than the originally xp1 probably ok. The is a certain amount of minimal weight and size required to help w/ balance, comfort, and control layout.

there is also a rumor about a double xp2 announcement awhile back.
- 24mp apsc size sensor
- a bigger than apsc but smaller than ff one, so that current xf mount lenses can be used.

My guess is the 24mp size sensor. I don't c the in between size as a good strategy.

Gary

 

[rbelyell]

does anyone know what difference if any this 'inorganic' xtrans sensor will have over the previous 'organic' xtrans sensors? i noted 'inorganic' in that site and wondered about it...

 

[JoeV]

The trend toward miniaturization is in my opinion a mistake. Just because you can do it doesn't make it right. A more appropriate and desirable design goal is to make the controls fall easily and intuitively to hand to a large percentage of targeted users.

So, the new Leica SL is a good idea!!? 😎

~Joe

 

[muser53]

So, the new Leica SL is a good idea!!? 😎

~Joe

As Mr Natural would remind us, Use the right tool for the job.

 

[robert blu]

I guess smaller than the current model means a size between the pro 1 and the xe2...it would be not too small for me ! And in conjunction with that new 35 F2 it would be almost ideal...
robert

 

[brbo]

does anyone know what difference if any this 'inorganic' xtrans sensor will have over the previous 'organic' xtrans sensors? i noted 'inorganic' in that site and wondered about it...

There is no "organic" sensor on the market. It's just a patent.

 

[Sid836]

Having my X-pro1 and being quite happy with that, I see not much reason for me to get the X-pro2. For me it will be something like an X-Pro3, or 4, or something better when the time comes (not any soon).

 

[emraphoto]

I wouldn't be overly concerned with a serious reduction in size. The only major hurtle Fuji has to deal with is the inclusion of a solid video interface and capability. Specifically with a camera that presents it's self as a 'pro' model.

 

[andrew00]

Big fan of the X Pro 1.

Re size - if it's smaller then I'd be happy. I suspect components and processors and general tech inside the camera will have improved in the 5 years or so and is now smaller and faster, so can be fit into a more limited space.

That'd be a good thing imo, smaller and lighter is good. Esp as the body itself benefits from having a grip, so maybe a small and limited grip standard body with an option extra grip that makes it bigger and easier to hold could be good,

 

[SolaresLarrave]

I was planning on pulling the trigger on the X-Pro 1 some time next year... but seems that the issuing of this one my lower its prices (like it happened with the X100 when the X100S came out).

On the other hand, I am still clinging to my Nikon D700, and not needed any of the three models that came afterwards.

Who knows... if I don't stay with the x100, you'll know when I get the X-Pro 1 (or 2... or 3!).

 

[willie_901]

The only thing that disturbs me about this announcement is that The X Pro 2 will be much smaller than the current model. ...

The X100/S/T is not too small for me.

The X-Pro2 definitely wouldn't work for me if it means there is no OVF or the OVF shrinks.

Good thing I still enjoy using the X-Pro 1.

 

[willie_901]

There is no "organic" sensor on the market. It's just a patent.

It's more than just a patent. There is an active R&D program. It is a joint venture between Fujifilm and Panasonic.

Organic sensors may never be commercialized. But the technology goals are:

o A 80% reduction in sensor thickness

o up to two a two stop improvement in analog signal-to-noise ratio and dynamic range.

o an increase in the incident light angles of up to 60 deg compared to the current CMOS sensors.